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Holy crap!

"Dropping Coils" would have been a better name for this route. p.s. Should have told the cops you were trying to lasso a sailboat mast and go for a little waterski session.

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Sounds great! What kind of car did you have? How bad was the road? Did you drive to the end? I was in COR from June 17-27 and we wanted to go to the FOF but heard the road was too rough for a Subaru wagon. What did you climb at the City?

Shit. Not the best news to come back to after a 10 day climbing trip. I wish you well Kurt and look forward to tipping back a pint with you again sometime soon.

Heading out tomorrow. COR is first planned stop. I plan to try to check in with this thread occasionally while we are out there, so if anyone has updates on Winds/E. Perch conditions, or more beta, I'd appreciate it if you'd post it here or send me a PM. Cheers! p.s. Judging by the amount of snow in this picture: I'm hopeful we'll be able to get into the sawtooths.

I think you better notter post those pix Gary.

Princely Stoke!

Is that p2 of Davis-Holland?

That's OK Natty, you're still a rock star in my book.

Yes, but I have ADD, so you should probably post more pictures to keep my interest up.

I honestly don't remember. I don't have trouble there. I have trouble getting off the ledge above that because I always wanna fill up the fingerpods with gear to prevent hitting the ledge if I fell. This is especially a problem when your partner's rack doesn't have any nuts smaller than 1/2". This is a rare instance where having smaller "nutz" gives you more confidence than bigguns.

Well maybe I'm just a "gol' durn' librul cynic", but GWB ain't no conservationist/environmentalist, and I ain't givin' him credit for such. This place was already designated as an "ecosystem reserve" and there was only a small, token amount of regulated fishing going on, so I don't think this is going to make a huge difference in the health of the ecosystem there.

Yeah, I think based on the facts I know about the place thus far (a rare, delicate, and rich ecosystem is being designated as a new National Monument) it sounds really cool, but what does the designation mean and was the area really under threat? From what I've read, it doesn't sound like anyone ever went to this place, including fishing vessels*(see edit below), so will this designation really change the prospects of this ecosystem flourishing in the future? A variation of the tree falling in the forest epithet, "If a place that no one ever vists gets designated as wilderness, does it really matter"? I'd be curious to hear how much fishing/mining/etc went on out there and how that will change now. edit: "According to Hawaii officials, nine bottomfishers now work the area, using weighted, baited fishing lines to catch about $1.5 million worth of snappers and sea bass."

So credit should be given to the environmental lobbyists who pressured the administration to give lipservice to conservation by "protecting" an ecosystem that wasn't under threat (well, actually they are going to let fishing continue for 10 years, but after THAT it will be "protected")? I agree. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this area really is threatened and this designation will make a difference. But why are they allowing fishing to continue for the next 10 years if the area really is threatened? If they continue to allow fishing, what is the point of this designation except to make Bush look good?

No, it's about getting drunk before noon. ... and then sobering up.

THIS JUST IN!!! George Bush declares Sea of Tranquility a No-Drilling-For-Oil zone! Lunar preservationists rejoice!

THAT'S what I'm talkin' about. Damn Will, you should go pro.

"now you can tightline the cameltoe in style while letting it all hang out on the Camp 4 slackline?"

I've just been informed that Patagonia makes a Capilene thong. So how would the description/caption in the catalog read?

yup. That pitch is 10b/c the way we did it.

That "5.11" is 5.9 for three moves and then 5.6. As chuck said in another thread. Either a new hold was created or unearthed from the moss, or it was a typo in the guidebook.

Alpin-Strunk&White-Fox be gettin' all UP in yo' grill fo' dat!

Shock is a general term for inadequate cardiovascular function. It can be thought of in layman's terms as "not having enough fluid (blood) in the pipes (vessels and heart)" to maintain enough pressure to adequtely circulate fluid thorughout the system. It can be caused by many things. The three types related to trauma are: Hypovolemic shock: blood loss. Not enough fluid in the pipes due to a leak of fluid. Neurogenic shock: damage to central nervous system which controls blood pressure, HR, vascular tone, etc. causing subsequent drop in blood pressure. The pipes dilate, thereby becoming bigger, and then there isn't enough blood to fill them and generate enough pressure to get good perfusion. Psychogenic shock: I don't understand the physiology behind this one very well, but I think of it as a Neurogenic shock induced by a psychological trauma. The end result is the same. Nervous system dysfuction causes vessels to dilate. Big pipes, not enough fluid = low pressure. Psychogenic shock is very common and was the most likely form of shock the individual in the Little Si incident was experiencing. Basic treatment for these types of shock includes: controlling bleeding, positioning patient with feet raised (don't do this if they have head trauma) which increases blood volume+pressure in the torso+head, keeping the patient warm, reassuring/comforting patient (especially important for psychogenic shock), administering oxygen, and packaging and transporting to hospital. There are other forms of shock... anaphylactic, septic, etc. GOOD LINK Another good link explaining physiological of BP regulation LINK 2