Gary_Yngve

I take it that's a quote referring to Iraq?

It looks like 2-3 feet per pixel, and with each pixel of the CCD being monochrome with a different color filter on it, differences in one pixel could easily get lost. Have you looked at the timestamp to figure out what part of the face they would have likely been on?

I was talking with my parents today, and I was explaining my thoughts of how there should be at least two locations far apart in the country that basically have warehouses, C-130s, and manpower on call with capabilities of feeding and housing tens of thousands and having operational field hospitals within 24 hours. My dad replied that that was civil defense, and that's what the response to Hurricane Camille was. He then responded too how companies, e.g. buses/trains, had war plans, and now because of deregulation, they need to be chartered. So do we need such a system set up now? Or are lower taxes more important?

My parents told me that Bush was asked if it's ok to take food/water from abandoned stores, and his response was that he has no tolerance for looting whatsoever.

I think everyone's confused right now whether the cops were firing at contractors or at folks who were firing at contractors and if any of the contractors were hit. Certainly the text above that you quoted is poorly written and confusing at best.

Sweet, I successfully triangulated the peak from your summit shot w/ Redoubt, Bear, Baker, and Shuksan. Should you add a BW5+ to the rating to make the magazines happy?

I agree completely. And furthermore, I think it could be legit to loot electronics and jewelry if the intent is to barter them for food/water/shelter.

from CNN: Nagin told CNN that his top priority on Sunday was to start moving traumatized police and firefighters out of the city so that they can get medical and psychological treatment. "They've been holding the city together for three or four days, almost by themselves -- doing everything imaginable and the toll is just to much for them," Nagin said. "So, I need to get them out and we've been trying to figure out where to take them so they can reunite with their families." Police Superintendent Eddie Compass said that two of his officers have committed suicide, including one who had just learned his wife had died. Compass also said that reports that 60 percent of the police force had deserted was "totally ridiculous."

Yep, this weather sux. And what sux more is when you're trying to implement an algorithm and the two papers you have on it (by the same authors) are inconsistent, and the two independent sources you could find on similar methods are likewise inconsistent. 2/4 papers are dropping a 1/2 from the 2nd-order term of a Taylor-series expansion (for calculating optimal control). Likely I'll waste the whole day on a whiteboard getting to the botton of what is likely a careless error or a clever sequence of substitutions to obfuscate the 1/2.

Depends if you've been Lanced previously.

Work, work, work.

I've been annoyed by Bush and the Fed's "Help is on the way" response. Wasn't it the Repubs who bashed Kerry and the Dems for saying that in their campaign? It's like, "Are we there yet? Just a little bit further. Almost." I wanted to hear: Personnel and equipment were prepped a day before the storm landed. The day after the storm, we will have resources to feed 25000 per day and house 10000. We'll have a field hospital and have SAR crews and MPs active.

The South is a stable place for the middle-class to raise families in the suburbs. Even though those states rank at the bottom of the list in terms of education, the public schools in yuppie-land are quite good. That's why I grew up there. FL is pretty cool with beaches and the Everglades. Unfortunately the reefs in the Keys are mostly dead now. Miami has diverse Hispanic cultures. FL, AL, and TX get props for NASA in Cape Canaveral, Huntsville, and Houston. GA, NC, TN, and VA have the Appalachians (Blue Ridge, Smokies, Shenandoahs). Atlanta has GT, Emory, and CDC. The Research Triangle has Duke and UNC Chapel Hill. New Orleans is way cool. Jazz, Cajun, cool architecture, the craziness of Bourbon Street, amazing food (gumbo, po'boy, jambalaya, etc.) Yes, the South isn't as exciting as New England or Cali or PNW, but that's also why it's much cheaper. Of course there are many problems with the south -- crime rates in the poor inner cities, poverty in the rural areas, poor education / high unemployment in poor areas, suburban yuppies who preach their own agenda and are blissfully unaware of the poverty that they shut the blinds to...

In his state of health, the common cold would have been lethal. Just a matter of time, just like with the Pope.

Fairweather, what's the thread where "a liberal laments the limited destruction inflicted on the deep south..." ? Regarding the police force, they were without supplies and communication and spent the first 48 hours after the storm working around the clock. Now they are resting and tending to their families.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/katrina/looters.asp

You guys have your archrival game at the beginning of the season?

East Face of SE Mox?

Wasn't it Gingrich who criticized Bush and the anemic response and demanded that Guiliani be put in charge to get shit done?

The ABCs never get any respect.

I should add that there's a pretty mangled .75 C4 2/3 up Godzilla that's been there for at least two weeks.

Trader Joes Port Salut $7 / pound

I've been to Index three times in the past two weeks: trip 1: Tom Lewis (tomtom) and I drove up Thurs afternoon. First on our agenda was a new route to the top of the left upper wall that Darryl had told me about a month earlier (DGS, 5.9, 3p)*. We then headed down to Godzilla and got up to the base of Sloe Children when we decided that it getting too late for me to attempt leading it... clearly I would not have wimped out had we not "wasted" time eating so many blackberries! trip 2: Baldwin Goodell and I headed up Saturday morning to do DH/LA. We got to the base of the route and the Mounties Bigwall students were aiding the first pitch on the way to the second pitch of Town Crier. Instead of being the quintessential cascadewhiner.commer and cursing them out and threatening to kick their asses, we climbed DGS and returned to an empty route. It was a hot day, and it definitely made things harder for us. Baldwin had done the route once before, and I was a DH/LA virgin. On the crux of pitch 3, where folks recommend offset nuts, I finagled two small regular nuts (somehow the offsets got left in our pack) in there but didn't like their chances of ripping with an outward pull (I had a green alien in five feet below, but there was a small ledge 12 feet below), so I did a point of aid. On the start of pitch 4, Baldwin had to hang on a piece (he onsighted the pitch the first time). High on pitch 5, I took a short whipper when I greased off while downclimbing to a better stance to rest. We all followed fine -- I think the heat just sapped us and made our fingers sweaty. The crazy thing about this day were how many folks I knew. In addition to the Mounties, I bumped into Alasdair Turner and Mountain Madness Chris (thanks for the beeers!), Eric Gratz (eric8) and Scott Whittomb, and Emily Lang's gang (Dave Burdick, Pax, and Olyclimber were nearby). Turns out Tom Lewis and Eva were there as well, though I didn't see them. trip 3: Jesse Heineman and I went up to Index Thursday morning for a few hours. We warmed up on some stuff on GNS and then went over to Thin Fingers. Jesse led it in fine style. I followed up and completely flailed at the bouldery start to the 2nd pitch. I did the right-side bypass and followed the rest of the way without incident. Then we went over to Saggitarius. I had never done it before -- just heard it's scary reputation -- so Jesse set me off on the route up to just below the 11b roof. It was pretty burly, more liebacking than I'm used to, but it seemed that whenever things got really hard/scary, some magical hold appeared. Jesse then cranked the 11b roof, and I flailed helplessly on it. Clearly I need to boulder and sportclimb more to get stronger at trad. * DGS starts at a big tree just to the right of Biology of Small Appliances. The first pitch (5.8) is short, traversing right for ten feet and going up a crack to a big ledge. Second pitch (5.9) is close to 50m, going up the right of neighboring cracks for 15-20 ft, and crossing to the left one for the remainder of the way. Third pitch (5.7) is short. Two ropes to rap. Doubles of 2.5" to 3.5" aren't truly necessary (there's some smaller cracks to the side while climbing the wide crack) but may be recommended for peace of mind.

I doubt it. Floods are never covered under standard homeowner's insurance. Yep, just like earthquake insurance up here. Once again, the poor get screwed.

A converse question: Suppose there's a massive natural disaster and after a few days, there isn't sufficient govt response. When does it become ok to loot grocery stores for food? When does it become ok to loot other stores for valuables that could be exchanged for food?