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Bug...that is laughable as an argument...a huge proportion of bolters can climb fairly decently in cracks with natural protection...just cuz they "choose" to bolt doesn't mean that they have to cuz they are "wussies"... you should head over to ceuse and take a gander at some of their pussy routes...:rolleyes:feel free to try them as many times as you like to wire and send clean... So you are in favor of bolting everything? Lovin Arms? NR of Stuart? Or is there a line you would draw somewhere? No bug...you missed the point of my point while i got yours... My point was "saying that a bolter is a weak sauce pussy because they CAN'T climb something with pro" is not always (in fact most of the time not) accurate. Of course there's lines where no bolting should be the rule... one place for a well placed bolt would be kev's forehead, though... So your point is that really good climbers who can climb a crack trad and then bolt it anyway are NOT assholes? That is a laughable arguement. Untwist your panties and try again. so...i didn't say it one way or the other whether they were assholes...I just said that they likely are not weak climbers... you sure are an argumentative little cuss today... OK. Compromise. I'll agree that they aren't weak if you'll agree that crack bolters are assholes.

Bug...that is laughable as an argument...a huge proportion of bolters can climb fairly decently in cracks with natural protection...just cuz they "choose" to bolt doesn't mean that they have to cuz they are "wussies"... you should head over to ceuse and take a gander at some of their pussy routes...:rolleyes:feel free to try them as many times as you like to wire and send clean... So you are in favor of bolting everything? Lovin Arms? NR of Stuart? Or is there a line you would draw somewhere? No bug...you missed the point of my point while i got yours... My point was "saying that a bolter is a weak sauce pussy because they CAN'T climb something with pro" is not always (in fact most of the time not) accurate. Of course there's lines where no bolting should be the rule... one place for a well placed bolt would be kev's forehead, though... So your point is that really good climbers who can climb a crack trad and then bolt it anyway are NOT assholes? That is a laughable arguement. Untwist your panties and try again.

Nicely done Jeff and the rescue group. Rotors 5 feet from the rock! Yikes!

Bug...that is laughable as an argument...a huge proportion of bolters can climb fairly decently in cracks with natural protection...just cuz they "choose" to bolt doesn't mean that they have to cuz they are "wussies"... you should head over to ceuse and take a gander at some of their pussy routes...:rolleyes:feel free to try them as many times as you like to wire and send clean... So you are in favor of bolting everything? Lovin Arms? NR of Stuart? Or is there a line you would draw somewhere?

Bolting cracks is only done by assholes imo. "I can't climb it clean so I am going to ruin this unique route for those who can climb it clean." Oh, and "Wow, now that I have that wired, I guess I could climb it clean." Golly Minx. Good troll.

Don't get used to it.

Congratulations!! The first time I was in Pasco I got left on a side rail about 5 miles out. I was 17 and riding the rails. It would have been good if there was anything like a bridge that we could have seen. Put a flag pole on it.

Spray rarely doesn't suck. But I was commenting on the spray in the other forums. It is supposed to suck here. Carry on.

I put my cannister under my pillow. It is warm when I wake. Then I can hold it in my hands while it cooks.

The newbie who comes here looking for CLIMBING info has to smell the spray. Or leave and never come back. Your tollerance for spray is abnormally high. Look at your post count.

I personally like the site in general. Spray is juvenile and reveals peoples unguarded side. I like that. I don't respect a lot of what is said here tho. It is like farting under the covers and holding your wife under there regardless of her protests. It just doesn't come across as normal and well adjusted. Obviously, that is not the goal. I'm just saying, come back in ten years and read your own posts. You're all a bunch of dickheads. I have met a lot,.....A LOT of people who don't even read the site anymore because of the spray outside of spray. Saying there isn't any is a signal for you to cut back on the RedBull.

How was the koolaid?

Bold or.......... Ivan.

He is out there all right. Interesting how he changes the subject from Poland to the poster's nationality. Then gets all panty twisted when someone else changes the subject. FW. You need to go play poker with some Blackfeet. And after you all get a little drunk, tell them you are a native of America. Maybe you should even say the pledge of allegiance. Dumbass.

The bandits will not stop until someone pops a few. Personally, it is not worth it to me but I do hope there is someone out there who thinks it is. I'll send you cigarette money in jail.

Democrats bad. Republicans good. They will beleive everthing GW says and nothing any Democrat says. The sad truth is, all politicians lie almost constantly.

The whole camera thing is a waste of time and money too. Someone here actually got pics of the villans in action complete with pics of their license plate. The King County Sherrif dept did a big whoppin 0.

Ivan, Post your remaining scheduled climbs for the summer. I want to avoid bad weather.

You've obviously never been in the military. Nope, but I would rebuke anyone who would say "god damn america." Obama it seems would not. Me too. So I take it you have been in the military and all those minority soldiers around you felt like they were getting the same shake in life that you get as a white boy? "Whooee!!! Ah shore am glad I grew up in the ghetto. What a great life this is." God will damn Americans if we continue to horde our treasure and use force to take what we want from other countries. Man up. We are not living up to Christian standards as a country. Especially not when it comes to helping the poor here or abroad. If you can't handle the truth about our failings AND can't tollerate US citizens who point out where we are failing, then you might be happier in a country where people are controlled more completely by their government. Cheers!!

Sorry. I was climbing then working. You probably have not spent much time with minorities. They tend to use strong language when talking about taking it up the ass. America is not perfect. For example, our current president sends our people to get killed in a war that is considered illegal by the rest of the world. He does this based on a sring of lies. He also pardoned a man who was convicted of conspiring to cover up the investigation of an act of treason. A lot of people still think he is an honest man. Now THAT scares me.

I was a level 3 Wilderness Ranger in the Scapegoat Wilderness. There was also a level 4 Wilderness Ranger on the district who liked to point out that the difference between 3 and 4 was that he carried a gun. That mentality permeated his approach to managing the public. Then there is "The Tool" in Leavenworth. Unfortunately, there are more stories like this. It seems that if you flunk the test to get on a real police force you can still get a level 4 law enforcement rating with the Foest Service. You are playing a game. It is not right. Just know that you are probably a lot smarter. Tread lightly and keep smiling.

IS my history correct? Did George senior ad Putin serve as heads of CIA and KGB at the same time?

Oh bullshit. That already happened. We just haven't been informed and re-patriated yet.

Go to page two of Alpine lakes forum and read the last few posts but this is the meat.

Still cool.