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tryed it...I'll pass. Same same and after the 2 Germany's reunited they are already too powerful and controlling, and I like how Google rolls. Screw em. _________________________________________________________________ Thanks Rob!!!! LOL, damn I'm old and crotchety, I apologize for that. You're just worried that it is already smarter than you. And it provides links for its outrageous claims.

Climbing can be dangerous. But that can be an attitude problem. Read 'Freedom of the Hills' or some other description of glacier travel. Get the gear and practive the techniques. Set up a z-pulley in your back yard. Set pickets on a snowfield. Walk up a snow field with your crampons. Practice self arresting (take your crampons off so you don't snap your ankles above the boot). Then go try an easy climb. Don't be emotionally attached to the summit. If it feels like you are in over your head, you probably are. Turn around. Enjoy.

Or Index or LW. Or Squamish. Or City of Rocks..................

Rope up early. Rope up often. Until you have been out a thousand times, you will not want to un rope. And then, you may still fall in a crevasse as so many famous adn not so famous climbers have. Have fun!

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Looks like the problem could be reduced by half simply by yelling "OFF BELAY!!!" I have also bee angrily discouraged from climbing a route that was obviously idle for a long time. Another guy walked up and straightened it out as I just proceeded to climb. But to say "don't judge the Mounties by one experience" is denying my basic humanity. I have as much right to bitch as they do to hog a route(s). Organizations of all kinds are judged by the experience of each judge. In retail the rule of thumb is "you can help a customer 10 times in a row with excellent service but screw up just once and they will deem your service as poor" Mounties should visit this idea as an intro to common decency/ climbing. Rats everywhere.

That makes you hard tards in my book.

I have the Canon ae720. 6X optical zoom and 8.2 megapixals. It takes better pics than I do. Video too. I put a 4gig SDA card in and I am good for a trip.

It is true. A right wing fundamentalist Christian like this would have had a photo op with GW. Once again proving beyond a shadow of a doubt, Democrats bad, Republicans good. DOH!

Yeah. And call it "Spray".

One nut short of a bushel.

Argue with Wikipedia. "Alpine climate is the average weather (climate) for a region above the tree line. The climate becomes colder at high elevations—this characteristic is described by the lapse rate of air: air tends to get colder as it rises, since it expands. The dry adiabatic lapse rate is 10°C per km of elevation or altitude. Therefore, moving up 100 meters on a mountain is roughly equivalent to moving 80 kilometers (45 miles or 0.75° of latitude) towards the pole.[1] This relationship is only approximate, however, since local factors such as proximity to oceans can drastically modify the climate."

It's well worth the hump up there.

But if it is alpine, there are no trees. This makes pulling on wood in the alpine a mute point. So technically, it would have to be a tauntaun with sub-alpine tendencies. For the purposes of this discussion, sub-alpine piss fir would be the most likely and appropriate vegetable matter to "rock climb" on.

Ask the donkey. He posts here all the time.

This is a good time to go. Water will be easy to find. I took a big rack. TCU's through Camalots. A run of wires, a 1/2 and 1 tricam, slung stoppers through 7, and several full runners. The bottom half is a different character than the top. The advice is true. Be ready for anything.

Well at least he climbed something. I shoveled shit all weekend. "yes dear" "next on my list dear" "yes dear. I'm sorry. that is your list" Actually my wife is nothing like that. We shoveled shit together.

I have climbed some big trees in Oregon. Often 100' to get to the limbs. But alas, I aided them with spurs. As for the Royal Arched question, That was rhetorical. It was in on the first ascent and in until it plummeted. The whole discussion is subject to personal preference unless you are claiming chest beating privleges.

The timing is perfect actually, this might effectively weed out the old guard hangers on and jumpstart a new era. Detroit has been pretending to not get it for long enough. If I can take a 14 mpg 1960 Ford , put a slightly larger engine, a manual transmission and and taller tires - All in my back yard - and get 27mpg, why the fk can't Detroit? It's bullshit. They deserve to go down. Stupidity should not be rewarded.

I got on the rock at Marymoor. Whoop Whoop. Did ALL those pesky yard and house jobs. Pretty much free to climb for the rest of the weekends from here on.

Right on.

I took mnt bikes up there one year and road beyond a swollen creek I didn't want to drive across. Might be some snow banks too.

Don't get me wrong. I am not liking the pae of change but at the same time recognize that changing too fast is often not a healthy or sustainable thing. And, as I like to say, anyone who wants the job should be automatically disqualified. Never the less, I still hold out hope that some meaningful change will come about as a result of Obama's administration. I hold out hope that the groundswell of support from previously disenfranhised voters will be sustainable. If this is the case we could have an "anti-Reagan" revolution. Reagan enjoyed a strong groundswell as well and marshalled it into a series of executive acts that initiated this trend of modern presidents to write their own laws "ad hoc" so the story goes. In saying this I do not intend that Reagan was wrong through and through but that what he started has to be revisited and revised. The process is organic to some degree in that our system of government depends on the support of the currently most potent political base. It may also be the case that our constitution needs some more ammending. If this is the case, I would prefer to see a less potent corporate lobby in DC. As they are currently by far the most potent force in national politics any new ammendments would not bode well for you and me. Witness our latest meltdown. A trillion $ to big business from both sides of the aisle. So far, a few hundred million to the likes of you and me. Obama cannot fight that lobby for long without support from somewhere else. Bicker if you must but I'm goin with the man who talks the talk. Any president needs more than a hundred days to prove what he is made of.

Here comes the response from KKKK & FW. Domocrats bad stupid people who don't supply links. Republicans good (no links).

Yes. That under-the-nose area is where I use the block-wipes.