So I prodealed a pair of BDVs last spring, but they still came out kinda expensive. But over near constant use this summer, they looked like and old balled up wool sweater, burrs and rips everywhere. So with the climbing season drawing to a close I sent 'em off to weirdnessland (SLC) just for the hell of it, figuring I had a pretty slim chance of a warranty. Three weeks later a brand new pair shows up on my doorstep from KAMLOOPS! Sweet, I'm still gonna wreck this pair, and they were still expensive, even with prodeal, but I'm happy. Suggestion: Not all schoeller is the same: dynamic will get destroyed very quickly. Dryskin (MEC Feratta) is way more bomber (my jacket is like four years old now and looks brand new).