jordop

quote: Originally posted by Dru: The only historic messages allowed should be the ones that say " I AM NEAT AND COOL " spray painted on the base of the rock, and Kokopelli smokin a bong of course. I like "husquavarna" better at Comic Rocks. That and the axle scrape marks from rednecks trying to drive up that 5.4

Check out what happened to this guy: http://www.bivouac.com/TripPg.asp?TripId=1858 Fricken Dukes o Hazard frotier land out there sometimes! Enough to make you want to give the place a miss if the rock weren't so good!

http://gusa.site.yahoo.net/og162-browse.html Anyone know where to get a pair or have them? Approach shoe with a rear bail edge, right on!

Empty cans of Bud in the back and empty shell casings on the dash -- manditory Chilliwack gear.

The cliquey atmosphere that has developed here weeds out the rif raff summitpostjockies and instills in those who remain not only large egos but an actual need to get shit done for the folks back home. The forum for chesbeating COMPELS us to climb harder . Plus, I don't know what I would have done with myself last year at school if I didn't have this site to waste time at. Its no coincidence that those who spray hard are more likely to climb hard; its a matter of balls

The cliquey atmosphere that has developed here weeds out the rif raff summitpostjockies and instills in those who remain not only large egos but an actual need to get shit done for the folks back home. The forum for chesbeating COMPELS us to climb harder . Plus, I don't know what I would have done with myself last year at school if I didn't have this site to waste time at. Its no coincidence that those who spray hard are more likely to climb hard; its a matter of balls

I once worked on the downtown eastside of Vancouver - you had to be careful, there were rigs all over the place

Basta! Manicomio!

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Necro, if you're ever in Vancouver the Map Library at UBC has some good aerial photos of selected areas of SW BC and they also have TRIM sheets.

quote: Originally posted by Mr. Chips: does nobody care about the other issues and implications involved in this topic?! jordop got pretty aroused at the whole thing. it got under my collar a bit too, but hey, back to the question of who thinks they own the area and the impact and damage they are creating. it's the classic pot/kettle showdown. Yes, Chimpy, I did get a bit ired and if this guy actually exists or is just Dru playing a really fuckin funny joke (notcie he aint here!), I fell for one of the oldest threads on record. Maybe it's becuase I've had my eye one those spires for a while and when Shaun started putting up clean and free routes there at way harder grades that I could, it felt right damnit! No one owns the area obviously, it's just polite to talk to people who are currently working on routes there to avoid nastyshowdowns and misinterpretations of intent, i.e. scooping. Tyrone, if you are a real person, I appologize for jumpin on you, yes, I know bolting ethics here are way different from those in Italy. Best place for maps is Downtown Vancouver, the Canadian geological Survey Office on Robson street, just east of Granville.

I wouldn't be surprised if Shaun has done some more since Dru's latest update in the Coop log book.

What the fuck, I go to work for one day and come home to find Goran died at Vantage and some goof wants to lug a Hilti up to the Nesakwatch Spires. Aarrrrrgggghhhhh!

http://www.bivouac.com/RtePg.asp?RteId=1005 There is tonnes of new routes up here, all the result of Shaun Neufeld and friends. As Dru has warned here, Shaun is very protective of the area and you should do your best to get in touch with him. But BOLTS ????? What the fuck you talkin bout? Man, the cracks are everywhere, what the fuck you need bolts for. I'll kick your ass if you place a bolt up there, seriously. Man, it's alpine granite, not some roadside chossheap. There isn't a slab or unprotectable move on either of the spires. And if you think that any of the routes are gonna go 5.10 and under, you're wrong. Make sure you can crank 5.11 cracks solid or you're gonna butcher a good line in attempting it!

quote: Originally posted by Dru: [QB] I could see Jordop's nemesis peak 8380 clearly too QB] Arrghhh! I gotta showdown with that bastard next year! This time I'm gonna come at it from another angle so it won't see me coming Actually, there are some primo runs up there I'm gonna check out in the Spring when snow should cover the bush -- maybe a BCMC trip to get some fresh, unassuming, socially maladjusted individuals (a BCMC prereq!)

The results are in from Jordo's extensive and exhaustive soft shell field tests. I'll be expecting $$ from respective companies here. 1. Schoeller Dryskin in MEC Feratta: bomber tough, I've had the jacket and pants since they first came out. Rougher fabric but doesn't pill that much. A steal for the $. 2. Schoeller Dynamic in BD bdv pants. Prodealed a pair last year and used them every weekend for alpine stuff this year. They suck. Yes, they stretch more than dryskin but they have pilled so much that they look like an old wool sweater and have no H2O resistance as a result. Anybody know how strict BD is with returns, cause these have really disiintegrated. 3. Gucci Dimension. Prodeal when it first came out. Good design and idea though not as resistant as dryskin and Powershield to branches. My everyday ski jacket. 4. Gucci Essenshell. Prodeal. Wimpy fabric but good for non full contact stuff. Get one at an outlet as past years had stretch panels and the new ones don't appear to. 5. Powershield in MEC Pamir. Damn tough fabric. After nasty bush skiing last year, there were no scratches but the sewing is way too raised and is fraying all over the place. I'll take it back when it fully lets go. I haven't worn goretex in three years. Maybe that's cause I haven't been out in the rain [ 09-30-2002, 02:15 PM: Message edited by: jordop ]

quote: Originally posted by Fence Sitter: naw timmy ho's I think Chillywacked has the most per capita in BC anyways

I seriously doubt that a lift would discourage snowmobiles, they aren't really that sensitive about other users! The econmics of a tram would never make sense: 1. nearly 7000 ft of elevation from the Fraser River would be a fucking lot of money (not to mention that the rock is crap and placing towers would probably be a nightmare) 2. There wouldn't be enough revenue from a restaurant to pay it off (the skiing on "the backside" aint all that great or extensive and lift construction would never pass environmental review -- there are healthy goat populations around Welch and probably Lady too, though I've never seen them there) So nothing to worry about in my opinion

Anybody know anything about these? http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=230119&bmUID=1033148534746 Always weary of cheap tools like the one piece head on the DMM fly, but these seem to have all the right stuff in the right places from significantly less $.

Where's his Alpinek hardman toque? [ 09-27-2002, 09:59 AM: Message edited by: jordop ]

"toe-to-toe, about 6 a.m. to 2 a.m." Mikey, that would have been a cold bivy on top! Try it with ya next year!

quote: Originally posted by Dru: quote:Originally posted by jordop: Parables and Paradoxes - Franz Kafka Where the fuck did you get that one? Way out of print. www.pulpfictionbooks.com $8.00 CDN its nice to be related to a bookstore owner Another said: I bet that is also a parable. The first said: You have won. The second said: But unfortunately only in parable. The first said: No, in reality: in parable you have lost. [ 09-26-2002, 01:38 PM: Message edited by: jordop ]

Houellebecq, "Elementary particles". Had to go to the Ham to get it when it first came out. Not the most elegantly written, but provoking look at the aftereffects of 60's liberalism when taken too far. The guy's certainly stirring it up in France right now though.

Samuel Beckett "Molloy". Nuf said. The only book which encapsulates more is maybe Ulysses.