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bring shotcrete for the lasst pitch!

looks like you need to hurry up and get on it before it freezes!

Oboy there are some superb BUTT SHOTS in this thread. JUST what Mike needs for his front cover!

Third is good.... it means you came in in Not Last Place!

I think the ice will be SOOOO GOOOD in the Gorge that everyone from Bellingham south should be planning on climbing there.

The fact remains that whatever you pay your workers, if you make a shitty product all the marketing in the world is not going to save your company. The Big Three make shit on wheels. Their market share has been in steady decline for decades, directly as a result. Saving a bad company to make more shit is in no one's interest. Lt them go bankrupt and sell their factories to someone that can make some good cars and trucks with them.

Unless of course they have fallen ut by now as the damn thing widens.

It's been climbed partway up, gardening on lead, to where the rock quality seriously deteriorates. You will find a two-TCU anchor at the highpoint (mid-5.11 to there)

It gets done fairly regularly, in fact it is probably one of the more popular winter lines out there. Last ascent I know of was in '05 though. Bring some big hexes or big tricams to protect icy fist crack.

Lots of ice fattening but little climbable. Tuesday->Wed est. should be good 2 go.

Knowing your inclinations for Ivan I think you meant 'mouth to mouth" :kisss:

So we had this hideously awful auto bailout package, which suffered most obviously from the fact that (a) the Big Three still have no real plan of how they're going to spend the money, and (b) the Car Czar would not be able to make enforce decisions, but could only "negotiate" with the various interest groups involved, who once they had their bailout might well have told the Czar to take a flying leap. So then the hideously awful bailout package was then shot down by the Republican Senator from Honda--- sorry, from Mercedes--- sorry, from Hyundai--- sorry, from Alabama, where all those companies have assembly plants, and who could perhaps be forgiven for thinking that his own state would prosper all the more once the Big Three were out of the picture. Though that's not what he said. What he said was that he wanted the workers to agree to cut open their chests, remove their still-bleeding hearts, and place them on altars to be smashed by sledgehammers weilded by himself and other Deep South Republicans, and do all of this before any negotiations took place. (They had obviously learned this "We demand that you surrender before we will even talk to you" negotiation strategy from George W., who is now probably wondering why no one ever talks to him.) So now, because the catastrophe of a bailout looks to be followed by yet another economic catastrophe as the Three and all their suppliers and dealers die, throwing even more millions out of work, it looks as if George W. will have to rescue the Three on his own, without help from his own party. (Who knew that George W. would end his presidency as such a leftist? Certainly not I.) But while this drama is being played out, a company called Better Place is doing an end-run around the whole miserable automobile infrastructure, using a strategy derived from--- get this--- mobile phones. The plan works like this: 1. Generate electricity from renewable wind and solar. 2. Sell the power to electric cars at power stations set up throughout the country. You can either plug the car into a socket or swap out the old battery for one that's fully-charged. The user buys miles for his car in the same way he buys minutes for his cellphone. The car you use is either bought or leased from Renault or Nissan, who are participating in the program. Charging and battery-swap stations are even now being set up in Denmark, Israel, Australia, the State of Hawaii, and the Bay Area. Stands are also going to be set up in Yokohama, which is Japan's Detroit. According to this article by Thomas L. Friedman, "our bailout of Detroit will be remembered as the equivalent of pouring billions of dollars of taxpayer money into the mail-order-catalogue business on the eve of the birth of eBay. It will be remembered as pouring billions of dollars into the CD music business on the eve of the birth of the iPod and iTunes . . . " (Friedman's overstating here. No matter what your energy model, somebody still has to make the cars. In a factory, we presume.) "What Agassi, the founder of Better Place, is saying is that there is a new way to generate mobility, not just music, using the same platform. It just takes the right kind of auto battery — the iPod in this story — and the right kind of national plug-in network — the iTunes store — to make the business model work for electric cars at six cents a mile. The average American is paying today around 12 cents a mile for gasoline transportation, which also adds to global warming and strengthens petro-dictators . . . " "If we miss the chance to win the race for Car 2.0 because we keep mindlessly bailing out Car 1.0, there will be no one to blame more than Detroit’s new shareholders: we the taxpayers."

i thought this was gonna be about the Nodder. have you found the Nodder, P_P? Where is the Nodder?

I couldn't find the photo of Mike getting a hummer from the wooden marmot at all So I Googled "Mike Layton Marmot BJ" and found this! I'm pretty sure that for Mike's alpine nutrition tips this photo is important. Not sure exactly how?

No one with an IQ over 60 has bought a Big-Three auto in years anyways because THEY ARE SHIT.

It's snowing here right now. FRESHIEZ

see attachment. This includes all reported new routes done up to April 2008 in the area covered by Don Serl's guide as well as a couple of new areas in the Okanagan (older Okanagan ice climbs are listed in the 1985 CAJ). There are also a few amendations, errata and missed routes listed. The grand total is something like 70 new or not previously reported routes. Sounds like cold will arrive tomorrow, & there should be climbable routes by midweek. Happy climbing! 3991.doc

TAKE THIS JOB AND SHOVE IT I AINT WORKIN HERE NO MORE

It was reported either here or on Adrian's site so "many years ago" must be within the last 7-8 years...

I wonder whose balls she is hanging on that tree.

Orthodox Mtn - p. 240 - two multipitch 5.6 routes (both II 5.6) done by kris Wild and partners are not included Macabre Tower (p. 246) - SE Pillar (III 5.11) done by Tyler Linn and partners in summer 2007 is not included. Matriarch Mountain - p. 246-247 - SW Face Direct (II 5.8+) by Brayshaw & Fahlman 04 is not listed. Cheam Peak (p. 148-150). West Face Kay-Zozikyan (p. 148) and NW Face Kay-Zozikyan (p. 150) are same route. Slesse Mountain - p. 177 - Northeast Buttress is 3,000 feet high, not 3,000 meters as stated in text p. 184 - Mount "Parke" is actually Mount Parkes, named after Fred Parkes (member of Slesse FA team). Mountain is not "an intermediate summit just north of Crossover" but rather the main summit between Slesse and Crossover (mislabelled 'Stumpy Hill' in Alpine Select). Bamboozled Buttress (p.185) should be listed as a route on Parkes rather than on Crossover. Crossover Peak (p. 184-185) - SE Buttress of E peak (II low-5th) not listed. Mt Hatfield (p. 250) - North ridge route not listed (III low 5th class)

The info presented in the CAG for these routes is exactly what Fred got from Craig - I know cause Craig emailed it to me and I forwarded it to Fred. The Voodoo Child name was not used at that time.

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