carolyn

Wow! Thats really sad. Ive worked a gazillion warren zevon shows out here (bartending). He always put on a GREAT show!

Just booked my flight the other day!

I thought all of those characteristics were only found here in MN! 99% of the time out here the car driving in the passing lane (but not passing) has N. Dakota plates.

How far is the fire from the town of mazama?

I met a guy at a local crag out here who claims he is from "smith" (had oregon plates). Interesting fella....climbs with a large bird (it knew the commands, "off belay, "on belay", "bivy", etc ). Says he owns some sort of hostel out there? Doesnt seem to be quite your type, tex. Ya just never know, tho

Im confused. Im talking about the l'worth rope up oct 10-12th.

Ice! Hands down! ( started getting antsy a few weeks ago ) Rock - easy, multi-pitch...especially in an alpine environment. I dont mind a slog, if I know its going to end in some great vertical climbing. Any climb that is extremely challenging, but not unreasonable for me to do.

Yup, me again...moochin' for a ride! Looking to get out to L'worth Thursday before the rope up and get some climbing in before the crowds arrive. Would need the ride from seattle. And a return to Seattle no later than Monday. Will pay part of gas and offer food/drink to driver once we have safely landed! Anyone else need a ride or offering? Thanks!

I cant be the only one wondering how Im going to get to and from smith for the gathering. I may however be the most antsy... (I have the right! Im coming from halfway accross the country! ) Ive noticed a lot of people asking for or offering rides in random posts which get lost easily. Maybe it woudl be easier to try and use this thread exclusively to find/offer rides. I will be the first mooch! I need a ride from Pdx with a return either to Pdx or Seattle. Ideally I would like to get out there thursday night and get some climbing in Friday before the partay begins! As of right now Im flexible on my return date...sunday or monday works just fine. Of course I can help pay for gas and possibly buy a meal and/ or some beers for the driver.

The guide came into the store today to get his rope. I gave it to him. He gave me a rock as a thanks...a polished agate. Over and done with!

Here is the pic. Warning!

I got a picture of my bloody finger today after falling off a crack. Left a good portion of my skin on the climb. There might be a rock in the background. WHat about that ice axe photo? I think I might have it book marked somewhere....yuck!

I will be down there that weekend and looking for folks to climb with. Might still need a ride from Pdx. Would love to get out there on Thursday eve to get a head start on some climbing. I agree with snoboy...two parties are better than one!

Everything is brown over here in MN. Poor corn, it all looks so sad. Send rain ASAP! (and cooler air) Actually, its pretty scary in the northern parts of the state. The boundary waters area has been waiting for an opportunity like this to burn. All it takes is one person w/a little bit of bad luck to break the fire ban and we will have an enormous fire on our hands.

I ran into the guide at a local crag today. I introduced myself. Had I known he would be out there I would have brought it with. I tried to set a time and place to meet with him. He kept coming up with excuses as to why he couldnt meet me I would like to just get rid of this rope..

Funny story I heard today, along this subject. A friend of mine was up climbing in the Needles. He found a stopper on a route that a guided group had just been near. When they met up he asked her, "did you leave this stopper behind?" Guide looks thru her rack, takes it out of his hand and says, "no, but I could use another one of those" and walks away.

Stefan, Just to clarify the situation. We were setting up where they were tearing down in a cragging area at a State Park. THeir rope was in the way while we were setting up. Knowing the history of the guide, I didnt touch the rope (I thought that might be rude) nor did I want to talk with him (because I knew he would be rude). I left it untouched until it was REALLy in our way, then I moved it out of the way and put it about 5 feet from where he was standing. We lowered off the climb. When we returned, he was gone. I coiled the rope and put it out of the way where people wouldnt step on it. I figured he would come back for it. Four hours later, no one showed up for the rope. The guide brought the group up for the DAY. He was returning back to the cities (a 4 hr drive) from the crag. At this point it was obvious he was NOT coming back for it. In fact he was probably clueless to the fact it was missing (which was proven in my conversation with him today). I took the rope. If I hadnt its guaranteed another climber would have...not even knowing who it belonged to...and kept it. It sounded fine and dandy to keep the rope until I thought about it more. Yes, I was "on the fence" with my decision. Ive never been confronted with a situation like this while climbing (the difference between booty and flat out stealing). I threw the question out to you all because I was curious what others would do. Most of you confirmed what my consciensce was telling me. I called the guy up and he didnt even realize he was missing it. Wouldnt even admit to it when it seemed like a slight possibility. I dont think taking the rope was wrong. I think it wound up in better hands than had we left it at the crag. I dont think being on the fence with a decision is wrong either. Its good to be put in situations where you can test your integrity. The End

For my own personal sanity I'm just going to believe that you are trolling.

Bug, you have the winning response! Figger8, you are dead on. Thanks I gave the guy a call this morning. He insisted he would never 'lose' a rope. It actually took some coercing to get him to look and see if he was missing one. Didnt seem to care much that it was missing... said it was easy for him to replace and tax deductable. I will feel better when its completely off my hands;)

So, this weekend I started setting up a climb that another gruop was tearing down. It was a guided group. The person guiding the group I feel is rude, unprofessional, AND unsafe. My observations are not coming from this one day, but nearly 2 yrs of close encounters with 'em on a regular basis. So, the guide is ending the day with some obviously upset customers. His rope is in the way of our set up. I leave it there for a while, then move it. Before I could say anything, he left without the rope. Gone...poof...vanish! I coiled it up and put it out of our way fully expecting him to come back and collect it. Hours later....the rope is still there. We leave and bring the rope with us. Do I keep it or not? Its a nice, new, beefy bluewater rope. Good for a number or purposes around here. My conscience says give it back. My brain says, "fuck that". Sooooo? Bad Karma to keep it? DIscuss!

damn!

Suggestions were left a few days ago in the mounties thread/spray forum. The couple you ran into... Did one of them happen to pack her stuff and move out west just to climb?

well, it doesnt look like my vote made much of a difference....YET!

No love of cardboard pizza? If you're in Grand Marais make sure you stop by the pie place on the south side of town (my minds drawing a blank as to the name) Damn good pies, and better than the tourist trap Betty's. I cant even picture it. Sure its in Grand Marais? Stopped by Betty's for a bite to eat on the way back to the cities this weekend. They were out of practically everything...including my favorite rhubarb pie *Back to your regularly scheduled program*

I will be looking for a ride from PDX. WOuld like to head out Thursday and get some climbing in on Friday. Either a ride back to PDX or Seattle would be great come Sunday or Monday.