carolyn

I cant find the pants on the internet for the life of me. At any rate, looking at the mtn hw site, it seems they use dYnamic schoeller for these pants. Hell, I buy 'em for 50-60 bucks, if I dont like 'em I will just sell 'em to someone. Thanks for the feedback.

not heavy enough yet!

Ya know, I just found these pants in the "thrifty" part of our store by chance (used, samples, etc). THey are dynamic. The patagucci powershield ones where WAAAAY too long...besides I like the stretch in the mtn hardware ones better. I really like the fit and adaptability of them. I guess for 55 bucks I cant go wrong. Wish I could remember the name of the pants. Anyway, I put them on hold for my next paycheck. I couldnt decide earlier today, so I spent my check on building my rack instead!

Sorry if this has been covered before. Couldnt find anything on a search or going thru a zillion pages in this forum. Has anyone had problems with the durability of their scholler materials? I was about to purchase a pair of mtn hardware pants...perfect for warmer ice climbing days and cooler days on the rock. Someone stopped me though and said there have been a number of complaints recently (and things being returned at the store) because the material is ?piling? and strings of material are coming out (not at the seams). THis seems to have happened with some arcteryx jackets and BD pants. I get a good deal on them and I know I can return them. But I hate to waste the money up front. As well as it would be good to know how well scholler material has held up for others.

Im curious about those who responded to this poll, voting for tricams. Is it because you trust them in camming mode or because you dont want to leave a cam behind? I just bought a few tricams (pink and red). I havent yet practiced placing them, but I have cleaned them. Ive never found them terribly difficult to clean. What I have found to be the biggest bitch to clean are the metolious curved stoppers.

HOt Sweaty Loud Lots of pouring beer in plastic cups to prevent bottles getting thrown. Never ending night. Fairly pleasant/civil crowd. Most importantly....made enough money for a flight out to the PNW this fall!

Dru, I think that is the weekend of the 10-11th (or the monday of that weekend). Isnt it the same as columbus day in the states?

I dont drink coffee that much anymore, but thats EXACTLY what I had this am, dru! DOnt forget, they DO have decaf which can definately help the 'withdrawals'. The best coffee I ever had was when a friend of mine flew into Mpls straight from Brazil with 2 bags of beans freshly picked the day before at her families house. Damn Good! (although that cup in the middle of the road on the way back from lworth wasnt too bad either, erik )

I will be serving fine drinks to the live music of ANthrax and Motorhead this evening. Full TR in the morning.

Oh, and trask, Thanks for the offer!

If an 'out a state-r' vote counts, I would say do the rope up in l'worth the weekend of the 17th-19th. Then the Smiffy gathering the weekend before with the FOOL moon!(oct 10-12). Logistically, Its tends to be easier for me to start my trips South and head North due to limited places to crash and finding rides/ using public transportation (cant afford rental car ). I imagine it would be eaiser to find a ride to smiff or hop on the greyhound to bend from PDX than seattle. Plus Ive been to lworth under a full moon. Bet the sky just lights up down at smith!

Sweet! Thanks for gettin started on the planning so far in advance for those of us who want an excuse to travel accross the country for the famous rope up! Oct sounds great (more time to save money). Full moons are awesome! ANyone want to think about a smith gathering the week before or after, let me know. I will probly plan a couple weeks out there around the rope up.

Found 16 ticks on me and 12 on the young'en I took for a walk with this weekend. I like picking them off and blowing them up with a lighter! When I was in college (in southern Illinois) I worked at a camp where we collected 'seed' ticks. Often times we would have to go out and do line searches for kids. Usually one or more of us stepped into a nest and got covered. We would pick them off and put them in a jar of water. At the end of the summer we would have a "quess the number of ticks" contest. The first dumbass to open the jar to start counting won! Toward the end of every summer we started wrapping duct tape inside out around our legs. Funny to watch those suckers stick. I would take ticks over mosquitos anyday!

Speaking of bbq's, Im going to try and hijack this post in regards to whether or not there will be a fall rope up this year. Ive missed the past two by mear weeks. I actually wouldnt mind planning a trip out there around the time of the rope up. I know its early....just planting the seed.

winter and paco took my list! but they forgot Michelle Shocked and Shawn Covin. (I was wondering how long it was going to take to include bob dylan!)

Ive been a witness to many of backes slide shows. Definately worth it. Just take his attitude with a grain of salt, cause he

nice hoax there, batman!! Daisy would like to be unbanned, btw I will hang around for another moosedrool and then Im outie!

Here I thought I would check it out and see if there was more action in the chatroom than on "shipmates". Guess its back to bad tv, eh?

Damn! Heal quickly!

Thinker- Last fall I was rained out of what would have been my first trip to Blue Mounds, so I have yet to get there. I hear good things about it and look forward to checking it out this year. Michelle - Im committed to a job this summer, but look forward to a trip in the fall. Possibly the rope up if it is planned enough in advance and flights are reasonable. I will let ya know....I would be happy to be the ropegun this time! NorthbyNorthwest - the route was no big deal. Short (40ft?). Mix of face and crack climbing (5.6-5.7). The person belaying (and mentoring) me tends to talk a lot and kept reminding me to place gear (just call me run out queen ), trying to explain things as I went along, etc. He likes to talk. I told him before I started if he talked to much I would tell him to shut up...and not to be offended. I cant count how many times I asked him to shut up! I didnt really feel scared, but my legs did...as I experienced the 'elvis syndrome' for the first time. Im determined to only use stoppers for now on my leads and I have a pretty good eye for what I need right off the bat, so placements werent too hard. I must confess, I do get confused a bit with which way to clip in the rope, so if anyone has any hints on remembering, please chime in! The route has a bit of nostalgia for me. It was the first climb I tried outside and couldnt make it up. Last year when at the top of the climb with two other guys, some tourists were looking and a little boy asked, "how is the girl going to get down?" So ya, taking this as my first lead was definately a good way to see my improvements over the past year or so. Anyway, I found some pictures via thinkers link of the North Shore if anyones interested palisade head shovel point

Thats just gross! Reminds me of when I was a kid in gymnastics. This girl fell off the balance beam and scraped her leg on the edge of some wood. DIdnt even know it until someone said her leg was bleeding. She then proceeded to look at it and pull the skin to see how deep it was, revealing a similar site to that hand. Needless to say I didnt eat spaghetti for a VERY long time following that. Matter of fact, I seem to have lost my appetite for spaghetti yet again. *insert puking greamlin* Maybe its time for you to visit your dad out here in MN, pete. We will get you all liquored up at the club again so you will feel no pain. Hope you heal quickly!

Hey thanks for the link. Will? You out there? Still using the pack? I got a sweet deal on the alpine light (basically have to write a one page review for Granite Gear). Ive been using their latest model the past couple months for rock and ice craggin, but havent had a chance to use it on an extended trip. So I was just wondering if others have, how its held up , etc. Im still playing with the bells and whistles of it all. So far I really like it a lot. Once I write the review I will go ahead and post it. cheers!

Its not THAT flat...you must be thinking of Illinois or Iowa! Pete's got it right. We have cliffs along the shore of Lake Superior. Pretty freaky and intimidating shit. (if you dont get up, you be swimmin' accross that big lake). A few multi pitches, but nothing much over 200ft. Although I really love multipitch climbs, there is some pretty rad shit out here. Bigger isnt ALWAYS better And ice....right again pete...SICK ice in Ontario, especially! Short approaches, no avy danger. Well worth dealing with the cold.

Hey I did my first lead this weekend (trad, of course)! It was AWESOME! I am soooooo hooked! Its been a struggle to get myself in a mental space where I was ready to do this. Ive done a lot of following and a few mock leads last year. I kept questioning..."how do I know when Im ready?" No one could answer that for me. They would just say," ya just gotta try it". Well I cant say how true that is. You really DO just have to try it. Everything people explained to me on the ground in the past (which I wasnt sure sunk in too well) ALL makes sense after going for it. My rope management skills suck, but when faced with the situation of having to set up my own anchor and belay the second up I was able to do it safely. This post is partially to chestbeat and let some of you who Ive climbed with out there know Ive finally done my first lead. The other part of it is to encourage folks who are thinking about leading soon. A lot of support, a bit of pressure, basic knowledge, and trusting myself was the combination I needed to give it a go. it must have been an omen to find a n0 9 metolious cam at the base of a climb earlier in the day!

Anyone use this pack for an extended period of time? whatcha think?