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Perhaps, except if you know the avatar crew, you also know that they trade passwords occasionally so multiple folks can post under one avatar...add that food to the thought plate....

quote: Originally posted by pope: Absurd. You may catch me contradicting myself some day; I'll let you know when that happens Looks like reason and logic just took the last plane out of SeaTac

I nailed a dyke once...really flaky thing. Took beaks placed sideways, then I sheared the blade on one...started using kb's but the crack was too thin and shallow. Hmmm, what to do? Free climb you say? Yes, what an idea...big fat quartz crytals on the dyke made it go free at 5.7, and here I was trying to make an A3 lead out of it...what were you guys talking about? Larson, we love ya...how about tackling Baker and Adams this year? Should be plenty of willing partners in the Sea/Tac area. You might like it, different views and all.

MMMmmmmmmm Beeeeerrrrr! BEEERR!! ME WANT 'EM BEEER! See ya there.

Well goddamn I say! Harsh tokes. Hope he was alright otherwise and still climbing.

WTF? Guy has all his fingers in that pic...

quote: Originally posted by Bronco: You are not a recently retired Catholic Priest are you? Seriously, I don't know if Capt. Caveman is talking about the same guy, but, you could pm this guy, I know he has been involved in that kind of work previously. crack cool thing to do Dan! Yeah, that's the same guy...I know this because I worked with him at an adjudicated youth program in Utah. I know crack also did some kind of work in the outdoor ed vein in Oregon, not sure of the nature of that work though. Obsidian Trails is fairly well established from what I understand. You might also contact NW Youth Corps, they run some stuff that might be what you're looking for.

quote: Originally posted by Matt: TimL!! I will see you and Chris in Camp 4! We can have our own cc.com Pub Club in Yosemite! I'll be rollin in, fresh from Humboldt Co, on 5/19...see you there.

The thing I believe most people overlook in this issue is the fact that it originall passed as a RIDER to an appropriations bill. Riders in particular amount to political blackmail in my mind. If demo was going on nationwide, I'd say the "double taxation" doesn't fly, but as it is... I think the point that we need to focus on concrete, particular points, is a valid one. We won't get far by playing the ideaology card. Arguing Dem v. Rep is ridiculous...if you honestly think that either of these orgnaizations have your best interest in mind, you've been sucessfully brainwashed. So if you're tired of getting screwed by the standard crew of politicos, vote for me in the next election...I'll be running for congress on the greenbud ticket in '04. HAYDUKE LIVES!

Here's the deal: When Dan goes and climbs say, oh two or three other peaks, at whatever skill level, then I quit with the DLSUX..until then DLSUX DWAYNERSUX ALLYOUGAPERSSUX ISUX TRASKSUX

PRODUCE ROW it is! Thursday MAY 9 - say 7:00 until The Produce Row Cafe 204 S. E. Oak, Portland, Oregon Tel: (503) 232-8355 Beer: 29 taps; offerings include beers from most area craft breweries, as well as a couple of imports. 200 bottled beers. Food: This is the original home of McMenamins-style pub grub, mostly sandwiches with chips, and some snacks. Popular items include the House Special (a sort of steak sandwich) and the Stormin' Norman. For folks on a budget, a large sandwich will easily feed two. Atmosphere: For over 20 years, the Produce Row has provided funky, simple premises for lovers of a variety of good beer. The place is divided into three rooms: the main front room and bar, a smaller side room, and a back room with a pool table. There's also a fine deck out back with plenty of picnic-table seating, simply wonderful on fine spring and summer days. The Produce Row's interior is humble and unpretentious, and that's just fine, because here, the beer's what matters here. Clientele is just about anyone who likes good beer, from college folks to middle- aged folks from the east-side neighbourhoods. The cabinets on the side of the main entry room have a vintage collection of beer bottles and cans, some of which have been in there for nearly twenty years. That's the Row for you - good beer, a fine place to have it, and historical continuity. May it live on forever. Speaking of historical continuity, one of the original owners of the Produce Row went on to co-found the McMenamins empire. In a sense, the Produce Row is the cornerstone of the entire McMenamins pub group, even if the McMenamins no longer own or run the place. Smoking Policy: Allowed

True Matt, we can and should use the info from WW and other sources. My point here is that it's better to get somewhat involved (to the point of writing your congresspeople as a minimum) instead of simply throwing money at organizations such as WW who purport to fight the good fight for you. They are not always what they seem, and in fact there are quite alot of right wing PAG/PAC type groups who masquerade with "green friendly" names. One of my fellow master's students put together a presentation on this type of deceptive marketing in the public land-use sector.

Fantasy role playing comments from an avatar...now that's rich.

Here are the top 12 suggested names for Wal-Mart Wine: 12. Chateau Traileur Doublewide 11. White Trashfindel 10. Big Red Gulp 9. Grape Expectations 8. Domaine Wal-Mart "Merde du Pays" (roughly translates to "shit of the land") 7. NASCARbernet 6. Chef Boyardeaux 5. Peanut Noir 4. Chateau des Moines 3. I Can't Believe It's Not Vinegar! 2. World Championship Wriesling And the number 1 name for Wal-Mart Wine... 1. Nasti Spumante

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: Will-Dude! Why does he need to fulfill your personal minimal requirements before you stop the school yard bullying? - Dwayner Dwayner...remember how you had to really goad Pope to get him to wear that tangerine colored thong underwear you love so much? Remember how long you had to tell him that "only sissies refuse to shave their back for me.." until finally he relented and found out that he LOVED IT and felt so sexy in those butt flossers?! So I guess what I'm saying is, look at it like someone who needs a little goading to turn him onto something he'd probably really enjoy...probably the same way you got involved with Mickey's. "Go ahead Dwayner, what are you to much of a wussy to give this Mickey's a try?" Get me compadre?

Yo Mama so fat...she got her own zip code ...she got more rolls than a bakery ...she got more chins than a chinese phone book

Back on top. We'll nail a place down by the end of work today and run with it. Keep on with the suggestions....

Here's the reality of a fixed anchors ban: Who the hell is going to enforce it? By nature, the anchor is fixed to allow retreat/descent. Now for a Freddie to access the anchor they'll have to climb to it, and then how are THEY going to get down? Even if they pull it, next party leaves another sling/nut/pin...endlessly. I figure even the Freddie climbers who would be enforcing it are astute enough to not actually pull the necessary anchors, fixed or no. Surely they can see the laughability of a f*&$% set of steel cables allowing the gapers to summit Half Dome vs. a sling that no one except those using it would ever see...and I agree, Wild Wilderness is no "friend" or "spokesman" for me.

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Pro Row? Don't know that one... Maybe we should give it a day or two and let more people weigh in, we've got a week. Ahh Mary's, I was there Sun night meeting some bros who just moved to town from Tahoe...literally parked the U Haul on Ankeny and went straight in the bar. I dropped a full pint in my lap I was so drunk (had put in some quality time at the Kingston when they called)...boy I have my moments sometimes.

I love Dot's (I'm sure you can all tell I lived in the Clinton/Division neighborhood by now), but seating might be a challenge. Barley Mill is cool even if it's a McM joint, and I've got a friend that works there so we might even get hooked up on some cheap brew if he's working. Other options: Vincente's Pizza (great 'za and good beer as well, seating should be easy). Or maybe the Kingston on Burnside and about 20th, I spent a good bit of time there this weekend while my van was out of commission. We could also take over at the Tugboat, place is small (smallest brewpub in PDX) but good beer, friendly staff, right off Burnside at about 6th. Glad I started this thread early, this might take a while.

Yeah Wes, that would be the Space Room...one of the two stiffest drinks in town...other place is right across the street Sewickly's Addition (fondly known as the Sickly Addiction). If you ever want bang for the buck those are the places. As an added bonus, Tonya Harding sometimes works at Sewickly's. So someone have ideas for a different place? Rob? Pdxclimber? Dave Anne Jennie? Imorris? Somebody anybody? Kennedy? Buhler...Buhler

My pref is usually the LuckyLab as well, but it's really loud in there and maybe it's time to have one somewhere other than SE.

Uh right. Dru, I thought the same thing then checked the profile...too young, wrong city, wrong occupation. So it's "the other MK" I guess.

Uh right. Dru, I thought the same thing then checked the profile...too young, wrong city, wrong occupation. So it's "the other MK" I guess.