Juneriver

Handi-Wipes... your partners best friend.

If I recall right, Chris Mccandless (sp?) didn't just starve to death like an arrogent rookie in the woods. He actually lived out there for a couple of months on his hunting and gatheing skills. He actually killed a moose with a .22. In the end, he was cut off from walking out by a flodd stage river, and accidentally ate some toxic plant (previously unkown to be toxic) that would not allow his body to process any other foods. Hence, his "starving" to death. I think he made mistakes in preparedness for out there... but he was doing fine until a mistake caused a chain of events leading to his death. Kinda sounds like what causes climbing accidents, don't it. I don't really agree all with his dirtbagging ways, or the way he treated his parents.. but to say the guy was stupid cause he couldn't take care of himself is wrong.

I agree totally.

I was planning on paddling out this weekend... but now I'm scared. Dem is some big waves.

Who know's what may end it for us? Maybe it's time for you to give climbing a little break, but remember, it's not what you do but who you are and how you do it that matters. Re-read your sig line and never forget to burn, burn, burn.

It happens. Way to be sympathetic.

quote: Originally posted by COL. Von Spanker: After a fall like that you would think he'd use a rope while climbing... Naw... didn't do him any good the first time

quote: Originally posted by Gimpy: Anybody personaly know anyone who has taken a fall on a back-clip resulting in a uncliped rope? Just wondering. When climbing in Mexico, I met up with a guy named Pollo that grounded from 60 ft due to a back-clipped draw. He was in the hospital for about a year, paralyzed for 3 months and blind for 6 months. He recovered nearly 100%, but hadn't been able to get back on a rope yet.

Been using this rope for a while now... bout time to retire it. It's been a great rope and will hold your falls. The weight difference compared to a fatter rope of the same length is noticable. It's got a really soft catch and quite a bit of elongation so it's not made to toprope. The skinny noodle effect when it stretches gets your attention but it stops you just fine. Used it for alpine as well but the 70m length is a bit excessive for glacier travel. I also have more concerns about the skinny rope getting the chop from rock than I do a fatter rope.

I'm makin a partner buy it... He needs to stop borrowing my stuff!

I'll take it all. PM me.

I have a great partner and I know that he is going to keep it together even if things get a little hairy. We rarely need to communicate about what we are doing when climbing cause we just know what each other is doing. At one point, I was backing away from a climb because I was about 40 ft off the deck w/ groundfall potential... totally cake moves but my head wouldn't let go.. he encourages by saying he would "catch" me and break my fall. Later, I call BS saying him "catching" would just hurt us both... he looked really serious and said that there was no way he could watch a friend fall if he could spot it and maybe do some good. I don't know if I'd want that catch but I do know that he'd step into harm's way for a friend. Also, never complains. Period. Except when he is calling me a pussy. [ 09-19-2002, 07:37 AM: Message edited by: Juneriver ]

How about some prices? I'm interested in the R2 Jacket. Jamie

I would be interested and would make the drive. This is stuff we should all know, but if it's not practiced or relearned periodically it's tough to keep straight. I'd REALLY like my partner out there.

Great topic, I was just talking about the same thing to my wife earlier this week. I have just taken up surfing in the last year and went to Hawaii about 2 weeks ago, and the differences and the similarities of the two sports are pretty outstanding, at least from a beginners standpoint. When my wife asked me why some surfers were so pissy about others even being on the same break, compared to the typically cool attitude of climbers, it made me think. I think it's alot about where paths cross and life/death safety is involved. What I mean is, climbers don't get into each others faces more often because a)the paths of the new and bumbly don't often cross with the experienced/egotistical. If the two are in each others way, it usually doesn't mean one or the other misses out like it does in surfing. b)in surfing, a guy will drop in on you, confront you in the water or steal your shoes (happened in Hawaii ) with relatively minor consequences, maybe a fight. In climbing to do the equivalent, esp. to a beginner this could be a matter of life and death. When it comes to just general localism attitudes, I think the two measure up somewhat the same, although climbers are generally more tolerant of others because we are rarely directly in each others way. I've seen stink-eye both climbing and surfing. I've got to say that some of the things I love about climbing are just as great when surfing. Where else can you be thinking that you are in the best place on earth one minute, and scared for your life the next. Surfing and Climbing

Surf Lapush.

yeah... I got nailed by these guys about two years ago. Thanks for the info on the vehicles though. I'll be on the lookout.

I'll be the guy on the right... we can take my car out for a spin....

It's Trask.

Where are these guys?

[ 08-12-2002, 10:18 AM: Message edited by: Juneriver ]

quote: Originally posted by sk: Man, that will teach me to eat!!!!! SK... it's OK... you are allowed to log off to eat every few days....

quote: Originally posted by erik: [QBCAN YOU SAY AUTOBLOCK?? I KNOW I CAN![/QB] Hmmm... since we hadn't started climbing for the day yet... it would have been a little tricky getting the cord out of the pack.. Next time I'll just make sure to have you around for the fine instruction. Kiss it

"I don't know what color your eyes are baby, but your hair is long and brown" Anyone? I've decided not to work today.

ooo...ooo... Take the skinheads bowling C.V.B I'm scaring myself.