Juneriver

Actually it's Mr, thank you very much. I have re-read your post and I guess it was where you stated "First and foremost I agree with Matt and Peter." where I assumed that you were agreeing w/ Matt and Peter. Anyway... I'm not looking to brawl here or at the crags... that's what bars are for. take it easy... Jamie

All over the Ptarmagin Traverse... it actually became a bit of sport... we would try to fill the snafflehound holes before they would attack at night. Wasn't really on a technical route... but it was most fun I had taken a dump in the Mtns.

Aren't those the people you want us to make the board "nicer" for??

I dont know jblakley... he may run over me, but 8:00 for ~4-5 miles is about my style. I'm not a "runner", but I do it in an attempt to work off the beer effect for climbing.

Dang, Mike- Now 10 minutes later I caught you.... We both need to get out of the office!!!

jblakley- I can't make it this week, but I can from next Tue-Wed on. Usually about 4-5:30ish??

I wouldn't mind joinin up for evening runs... It's always better to run w/ someone. Don't count on me burning up the road though. Jamie

Toby- You probably overpaid for those things... My question is if the Ti screws will keep their teeth sharp as long as steel or not? Anyone?

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I heard that someone put up a climbing route on Mt Si (not Little Si), and that it was even reported in the mags. Does anyone know who did this route? How can I contact them? Thanks, Jamie

Until this year, I've always just blown it off with a "Of course I'll be careful" type reply, on my way out the door. But with the wife pregnant and more financial responsibility this year, it was hard to explain all the insurance I wanted to take out. Anyway, I'm really honest about it. I've started to sit down and explain the routes to my wife, go over my itenerary (sp?) with her, and explain the objective dangers. Of course I don't get into too much detail, and play it down some, but she handles it all pretty well. She also has done some climbing and has got a pretty good idea of what goes on out there.

jeez... the grumpy old capt'n just won me over. Who could possibly see Social D nine times and be a bad guy....

ooh..oooh..ooh The Descendents Social D ahh... the good old days.

Another option is Dome, Spire and Gunsight.. that is if you don't mind the long approach. However, if it were me, I'd probably head for the Enchantments. Jamie

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I climbed Dome last August at the end of the Ptarmigan Traverse. A great climb, the route is very straightforward as To The Top described. The glacier was really easy and the climb was beautiful with solid rock. The only thing that would deter me from going back in there to do it again was the hike to downey creek. We were told that the worst part would be either the flies or the bushwacking, and it was the flies. Extremely bad case of biting flies crawling all over my face until I was about ready to freak out. The bug juice I had seemed to have no effect. I would definitely recommend some heavy duty DEET. Beyond that, be prepared for a long approach without many spots to camp. We were going to camp but the flies were so bad we did not. We hiked out all in one day from Itswoot Ridge and that was a long day. I would definitely recommend making at least three days of the climb. We also did it on a very warm day, so the bushwacking was very humid and I think that just made the flies more active. Have fun, and let us know how it goes. Jamie

I really don't like the idea of having rescue insurance forced on anyone, which is exactly what will happen if rescue costs are billed to the climbers. I happen to think that the system that is in place is about as good as it can get. I mean, after all is said and done, I would bet taxpayers spend more money dragging drunk drivers out of their wrecks and into the hospital than mountain rescues. Besides, the training commander from Fort Lewis was on NPR this morning and pointed out that the money that was spent on the helicopter portion of the rescue would be spent, no matter what, on training this year anyway. So they were able to help some people out along the way. Anyway, I think the rescue pilots and the climbing rangers do a great job.

It was 103.7 The Mountain FM. The morning show guys, i don't know their names. But if I had to guess, I'd say they were expounding on what they also read in the PI. The article that started on the front page was almost more focused on the costs than the rescue itself. http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/local/25393_rescue31.shtml

I'm not trying to criticize. I know I would be in a bad mood after that kind of ordeal followed by a media highlighted rescue. I just hate it when the overpowering message that ripples through the public is negative for climbers.

Sure hope those guys show some type of gratitude and good attitudes for the sake of public opinion. I didn't see them on the news personally, but the morning radio show was talking about them and complaining that their tax dollars paid for this rescue and the guys seemed to have a real bad attitudes. I suppose I would be unhappy at having to have a chopper rescue too, but let's not get public opinion against us or rescues on the mountain.