ScottP

Killed a tree for Jesus.

Subtle, yet poignant.

The composer was Irving Berlin. Both Ella and Billie sang it at one time or another. Billie first in 1936. If Ella is singing it with Louis Armstrong, it was in 1937.

I followed her to the station with a suitcase in my hand And I followed her to the station with a suitcase in my hand Well it's hard to tell it's hard to tell, when all your love's in vain All my love's in vain When the train rolled up to the station, I looked her in the eye When the train rolled up to the station, and I looked her in the eye Well I was lonesome I felt so lonesome, and I could not help but cry All my love's in vain When the train it left the station, 't was two lights on behind When the train it left the station, 't was two lights on behind Well the blue light was my blues and the red light was my mind All my love's in vain Ooh... All my love's in vain "...Everyone should know Robert Johnson" - Keith Richards

I can dig that. Washington Post Headline: "One Very Tough Day for Cheney:" "Richard B. Cheney likes to tell audiences how much he was enjoying private life before Texas Gov. George W. Bush asked him to be his vice presidential running mate. There were times today when Cheney may have wondered why he ever said yes to the request. The day began with a report in the Dallas Morning News that Cheney, who has lived in Dallas for five years, did not vote in 14 of the state's past 16 elections, including the March 14 primary in which Bush was a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination. Later in the day, the Associated Press reported that Halliburton Co., the giant Dallas-based energy services firm that Cheney headed from 1995 until last month, maintained separate bathroom facilities for Americans and foreign employees at its extensive overseas facilities." [Washington Post, 9/9/00]

I can dig that.

Well then, here's my parting contribution to this lovely bit of dueling dogma.

so what's your point, fidel?

Well, really, I was merely drawing a correlation between Trasks comment ("I'd do what my President told me to do; regardless of who's in office." ) and the German public's mindset in the mid to late 1930's. Though, DFA's interpretation certainly doesn't fall far from my tree of thinking. When I look at pictures of Dick Cheney, I can't help but see a henchman. And, you're right Trask, I don't accept any particular faith.

That's probably what the people in this audience were thinking.

I'm sorry, but this is, imo, the DUMBEST argument for retrobolting. Or imagine this, the weeney climber could just not climb the routes with a little boldness in them.

I find the term "best" to be somewhat limiting since there are so many good crack pitches that are all so unique. Whether it be finger stacks, perfect hands, rattley fists or arm bars, or some grand combination of them all in the same pitch, what, to me, makes a great crack pitch boils down to the feeling I get when I'm in the midst of a good series of jams. Something else that no one has mentioned is the visual impact of a crack; some cracks just seem so much more of an artistic impression than others.

I thought about Toxic Shock a little bit before adding it to my list. The reason I did is it gives me that feeling you get when you sink a particularly comfortable jam and you get that oddly relaxed, fuzzy feeling.

I guess a link would have helped...

...that I pieced together from the TerraServer.

That whole Domeland Wilderness climbing scene is like that. There's some way out, kooky folks hanging out back in there. I met a guy at Elephant Dome while on a indica-haze tour of the area when I was a sprite that would lead anything you pointed him at. I finally quit belaying him for fear of the carnage that sure to end up at my feet. Besides that, he was a great guy to party with, given that he had more dope than I did and had climbed just about everywhere.

Is there 'one' best? Index: Breakfast of Champs-perfect hands (for me) Toxic Shock (ditto) Heart of the Country-pitch 3 Davis-Holland-2nd pitch Battered Sandwich Jap Gardens-1st short pitch Leavenworth: Bo Derek-wild Outer Space-5th pitch Givler's-2nd pitch Deb's Crack-fingers to fist Psychopath variation on Iconoclast blahblahblah...

I can second Squamish and City Of Rocks and I'll add the Needles in CA. Friendliest people would have to be Australians and Scots. It's been my experience that they know how to have fun and don't mind who's having it with them.

I'm not trying to be judgemental or second-guess or anything, just really curious: When did it become the norm to not have a climber tied into each end of the rope? Or do I just come from a place and time that is unique regarding this practice?

I believe there is a David Hannum quote that applies around here somewhere...hmmm...oh, here it is...yep... "There's a sucker born every minute." Oops, I forgot the [ 11-26-2002, 04:54 PM: Message edited by: ScottP ]

quote: Originally posted by wayne1112: This only confirms: Cats would kill and eat us if they could! Actually, they do...

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: (snip) Those big rings on the Great Northern Slab at Index are good anchors I always figured somebody is going to be extra surprised when one or both of those pop.

quote: Originally posted by mwills: anywhere but IOWA But you've got the baked mud climbing of Keppler-Palisades...

quote: Originally posted by slothrop: quote:Originally posted by danielpatricksmith: Biggest dissapointment was not getting to meet Scot'teryx. Just go to Cascade Crags and if you're lucky, he might even be there to give you a belay test That would be pretty cool; getting my belay skills checked by the poster child of gumbyness. I remember gettng a belay test at the Seattle VW a few years back. The guy had me feed rope, take in rope, give the proper verbal belay signals, etc. Then he simulated a fall by pulling on the rope. I locked off and waited for further instructions. He looked at me with an "...And?" expression on his face. I shrugged and he said, "Now what do you say?" Not knowing what else to say, I responded, "Get back up there you pussy?" He didn't think that was too funny, but I passed anyway.

quote: Originally posted by Son of Caveman: Scott, I didn't write that you nitwit. (snip) Your name is on it.