ScottP

I put my four year old in his full body harness for the first time this last Tuesday. I rigged a toprope to a beam in my basement and hoisted him up. He thought that was pretty cool. I then pulled the stairclimber over and asked him if he could climb up it and touch the beam. He pulled himself up and then mantled onto the console. One knee and then he stood up and tagged the anchor. I don't know who was smiling more, him or me. We're going to Index this spring to climb that big boulder slab at the base of the quarry.

I fully agree with chucK. Nothing funny about it. My vision of the kid was my 4 year old son. I challenge any of you who can't see chucK's point to stand up on a crowded bus and tell that joke for all riders to hear. I doubt any of you have the guts to do it. You're pretty much doing just that when you post such shit on a site like this.

In other words "nany nany...." oh nvermind Yeah, that's kind of the effect I was going for...sort of a reverse snootiness.

Philosophy="Investigation of the nature, causes, or principles of reality, knowledge, or values, based on logical reasoning rather than empirical methods." In other words it's subjective; hence "That's what you say." A rather clever little allegory Dwayner. Perhaps a bit too deep for this crowd, though.

Here's a litle fuel...

This reads like one of those bizarre Stranger personals adds.

Damn! I almost had it and then this popped into my head and fucked it all up.

Erik, I'm fine. Thanks for asking.

I see a madhouse tunneling ahead in times future endless rows of grayblanket'd cots & at night the dull red bulbs illuming the green dormitory a vast hollow cavern of quiet'd reptiles & me a bathrob'd figurine being led to the bathroom to pee.

what ever Capt. Semantics. Actually, it's more of a history thing (Is your spring wound a little tight today Erik?)

Oh, now I see. I thought it was a description of someone's kinky Gilligans Island sex fantasy.

I'm confused... Wild Country Friends (newer styles)=single stemTechnical Friends ? Forged Friends are the newer style of rigid stem Friends. Previous to them the rigid stem Friend was cut from solid aluminum stock.

average 101.5 F (38.6 C)

Not much diff between that and your autosig, except maybe his made more sense.

Thanks Chuck. Like I said, if I do it, nobody will ever know. I do like some of the ideas though: As erik said, freeclimbs girth hitch idea was a good one that I hadn't really considered. I liked his dirt and moss trick too. The anchors fifty feet out and the bag of rocks tricks get honorable mention for going that extra mile in championing the more puritanical side of the clean movement at Index. Perhaps they can point me to that climb TimL did with pins at foot level, so I won't leave any beat out placements on that one.

It was a hypothetical situation (yes, I asked on the chance that I would run into such a scenario.) I only asked for opinions due to curiosity. Trust me, if I can get clean gear I will. If I can't, I'll either go do something else or put in some iron. Nobody will be around if I do and nobody will ever see the effects of my "indiscretion". Thanks to all of you for the input, be it helpful or self-righteous.

I saw the break-in story. It took all of maybe two minutes and showed video clips of hikers in a parking lot. Nothing was covered that hasn't been here.

I don't need to. I can just slam in a couple of pins.

On the flipside, if you use half your rack of little nuts building a bomber anchor at the base you could run into problems if you need them higher up.

Your opinion Sloth, some would say it's the best crag in the state. If nailing is a last ditch effort, it seems the lack of a partner would not qualify as a reason to pound. Um... I didn't say I lacked a partner. Nor did I specify the lower town wall. Though I do appreciate your opinions.

You could try saying something like: "Outdoorsy stuff isn't and has never been your thing. You openly admits this. If you are only in it for the 'cute guys', I'm seriously afraid you're gonna hurt me or yourself. I don't want you belaying me or anyone else if you're gonna be trying to pick up guys at the gym/crag at the same time." If you aren't ashamed to think it, you shouldn't be ashamed to say it.

Damn the chestbeating moniker! More TR's.

I'm wondering how the Mole got between Prusik Peak and Toketie Wall. You have to get on top of Edward Mesa to be over by the Mole, and that is not right by Toketie Wall. Also curious as to if anyone has been to Ed Mesa via the drainage slumping to the E of said mesa, unnamed and has no named creek. It appears to be the way up, both from the road and from the top. Please respond or PM. Otherwise I will be forced to endure the heinous bushwhack. If you're travelling from Prusik Pass to the Snow Lake trail via Toketie Lake and Toketie Creek, technically you would pass the Mole as you go over Toketie Pass: At Prusik Pass, looking NE, the Mole is in front of you. At the confluence of Toketie and Snow Creeks, looking NE, the Mole is behind you.

Rattlesnake Lake

I know it's still a ways down the road, but I would like to see the look on the face of the poor fucker who is hanging off one of those when it finally does cut loose.