Peter_Puget

His user name is "Viktor". It is easy to look him up via the user list. I have sent him info before and in addition to making a super great guide (maybe the best guide in the region) he was always nice even when I said his rating was wrong! PP

Did you provide him with a better rating? If not, it still might not be too late. PP

If the route is only a rap route (that is, harder than 5.9x to lead) then I sure as hell hope there's no chance of getting a rope hung up on the pull. Could those bolts below the OS splitter (I seen 'em last time I was up there DBer) be used to climb the RPM pitch that leaves from Two-tree Ledge? Has anybody reading climbed that pitch lately? These bolts are directly below the splitter crack? Don’t know anything about them. Maybe someone was scopping a new route and not installing a rap route. In any event these are not part of Edge of Space. Point five, if it really was done by the DDD person at about the same time, what gives? Did that guy just get a new drill (at that time) or what? Time to go "improve" some 40-year classics! What ego! Are we talking Edge of Space or another route/rap route? See my earlier comments. Point six, Edge of Space looks cool. Is it really hard? Is it all sport bolted 'n shit, or death-if-you-fall territory or somewhere in between? Edge is a good route. Mildly scary (5.10) getting to first bolt and runout after the third to the anchor. If the second falls at the crux - there is a good swing potential. Last pitch is a bit intimidating because of the location. I suppose some falls could end up over the edge. You are definitely above the bolts on this pitch too. Maybe 5 bolts on the pitch which is long. Fun for the second because the chances of swinging over the edge. PP

"one about 30' below the splitter on OS. " Is there really one there?

Up to the Mole and Yellow Jacket Tower! Don't forget Midnight Rock!

Szy - Think big. A new road and parking lot. Think of the car shuttle from the top of IB to the bottom! PP

I am impressed that you can be so open with your thougths! Such self-confidence I wish I had. PP

You crack me up Retro! My fans and the photags follow me everywhere! For those unaware the route is about 30' long. Well maybe 35'. In anyrate it is quite short. The description "three star except that it doesn't have easy access" is a pretty revealing one! PP

I think the key is w/o hangs and being on lead. One challenge with the BOB route is not filling your jams with your pro. In addition if you are leading it onsight you can't see much of the crack after it turns up so you have to be mor ego for it. On tr with a hang you can check the crack out.

It is definately an error. It is more like 5.11c/d for a lead. The "hole" out on the face is a pretty cool feature. As I remember the crack is abrasive too! I'd say 3 star except that it doesn't have easy access. PP

One out of Four Frogs want Saddam to win! PP

Yawn…It will suffice to say that given the participants involved there is more water there than you know. Now get to work! PP

Pope Quote: "by the same party" Newer Pope Quote: " one of the two bolters telling me that he had cleaned and retro-bolted Edge of Space" I'll let your writing speak for itself. Unless of course you get me drunk and start swinging that... PP

I think that the clean up of Edge of Space was done before the DDD fiasco and that they were not done by the same party as DDD. In fact I believe it was done before the creation of this website. Pope’s info is correct that Edge of Space is a much more enjoyable lead now that you are no longer falling on 15 year old ¼” bolts. As practical matter, it is much easier to walk around rather than rap. PP

I prefer the frog pattern lycra! PP

I must warn you Erik more than two weeks in a row “off granite” will begin the process of wimpification! So be careful. PP

Dru here is a better phrase! L'Amérique, la patrie du capitalisme, sait paradoxalement débourser des sommes co lossales (comme dans l'expédition d'Irak) pour prendre soin du monde. L'Europe, qui n'a plus d'elle-même qu'une définition marchande, croit avec Adam Smith que le commerce et les échanges assurent à jamais la paix des nations. Good interview PP

Hey! You guys have turned this innocent quote into something foul and nasty. Shame! Shame! Shame! PP

A soldier quoted in the New York Times, trying to smoke a cigarette in a sandstorm. "Sometimes," he said, "you have to embrace the suck." PP

A long time ago I climbed Split Beaver with prototype/demo large Camelot. I think the #5 cam out after they had been in production awhile. Therefore it seems likely that I was using a #4; however, since it was along time ago I am not sure if the sizing on the unit I was using was the same as production units (although I can’t imagine it wasn’t) Split Beaver didn’t seem too badly protected and that it wasn’t very continuous. PP

Faced with the choice between Go Dog Go! and Time's Up which would you choose for an afternoon of fun? PP

Scott - Do you make this stuff up? PP

I meant full strength stops. The scroll pins used in old style cams have several design flaws. In my garage I have a museum of retired cams. I have a couple of Clog Cams and think they are a good deal for the dollar. PP

Good Question Mr K. Read this and find out why you feel that way. The reason you feel the way you do.

That's a summer time place Trask. I say Roadhouse near the VW. All the gym rats can come after their workout. PP