Lambone

wow, maybe larson does have a clue...,but aren't there trees all the way to the top of St. Helens. You can built sling anchors at each tree and belay from one to another. Be sure to leave more than one rap ring per anchor for the descent. And dig a pit in each tree well to check the conditions. Instead of carrying the weight of a beacon, just tie long pieces of red tape to your necks. That will help you find your friends dead body before you figure out how use a tranciever anyway. Have fun...

Show me the money...

Bring it on punk...

So I saw the add in the rag. They look like they could be cool, but I'm skeptical. Anybody know who carries them? Anyone use them before? The new Wild country 0 looks like the shit for knifeblade cracks and scars, fuck those BallNutz things. More gear too drool over, the wish list grows! [ 02-06-2002: Message edited by: Lambone ]

yo vege, you got to get a little more creative than that man... you tryin to break your own record for most posts in a day or somethin?

dude, you shouldn't have givin that away...

Hey, check this out. Carbon Fiber Black Prophets (straight shaft) for 189$!! One of the best all around tools ever made, fer sure ya know! http://www.bdel.com/php/specials.php [ 02-06-2002: Message edited by: Lambone ]

I have realized tht chuck was right. This survey is too long, and approaches too many seperate research questions. I think I'm going to drop the evironmental impact stuff, and stick to looking at profile demographics in relation to where climbers spend most of their time when "cragging." It is less interesting, but will be more straight forward to analize in the long run. Thanks for all the good beta, and the funny spray (yes even you chuck). I'll post the revised survey next week, and if folks can take a few minutes to fill it out that'd be cool. Maybe I'll try to fit in some kinda pub club prize. Thanks again.

Maybe so, but some of the fat flows that are in every year are worth the drive. Pillars on broken Hearts and such are cool, but the regularly formi ng routes are just as good as anything in Lilooet, and there is much more of it.

Good point Johnny, I think that is a great observation. Those are definately leading questions. Thanks for the help. BTW- Thats funny that you call me lambchop...thats another old nickname of mine. See ya. [ 02-06-2002: Message edited by: Lambone ]

Easy there chucky, I thanked you for your suggestion. And I wasn't being sarcastic when I said that you made a good point. I plan to keep the survey a resonable length. Once again, I may very well omit some of these question as I narrow my focus. This is a work in progress, and as I mentioned previously, I am just looking for ideas... What makes you so sure that I am not going to try very hard to do a competent job? [ 02-05-2002: Message edited by: Lambone ]

That sucks... Too bad that report doesn't tell us jack shit! If he was a compitent climber, would he be rapping off of one bolt? If it is a popular area, would it have one bolt rap stations? [ 02-05-2002: Message edited by: Lambone ]

I guess the soft plastic has its drawbacks. Then again, hard plastic is likely to split in half (as it did on Crack's boot last month).

Good point Chuck, I may or may not use all these questions. Erik,I am not looking for people to do my homework for me. I chose this topic because I thought it'd be a fun way to utalize the analytical tools that we are learning in class. This isn't a project that is going to save the world, or climbing in the Northwest. It's meant to be a fun exersize in research techniques. If people think it is fun to spend five minutes filling out this survey, then great! If not, than they won't...no big deal. I only need twenty people to fill it out in order to fullfil the course requirement, but the more people that participate the better. Who knows, maybe I'll send the finished product to the access fund or something. Anyway, thanks again.

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: Lambone...you answering to a T.A.? Are you some sort of undergraduate taking a massive lecture hall statistics course taught by a semi-absent professor and a few of his sycophantic, semi-educated minions (graduate students)? I pity the fool! That's what you get for going to one of them big fancy state schools which I assume is where you be going. Yeah, so...what's your point old timer? I fucked around for a while and now I'm giving it another shot, gimme a break. You would'nt give a recovering drunk shit for quiting the 12 step for a sixer of Mickeys would ya? It'd be nice to be able to afford some ritzy private school, but I'll take what I can get... Zenolith- I've got other sources in mind. I'm just looking for an efficient way to boost my numbers. If people want to lie on the survey than so be it, it won’t throw things off very much, plus I pretty much know who will help me out and who is full of shit (ie. it won't be to hard to figure out if cavemans sending one for each of his avatars). What are they gunna say, “no I climb at Little Si and shit on the trail.” Duh…doesn’t everyone! [ 02-06-2002: Message edited by: Lambone ]

quote: Originally posted by Msalter: Thought about going up yesterday (2/4) but since it is just myself, I was not too sure if anyone else would be up there, not to mention avalanche conditions at Pan Pt. Is that a good thing, or a bad thing? Check out MG's post on all the snow near paradise this winter, plus warming conditions.

Ok, so we all agree that this report sucks. Has anyone read a better one?

Yeah what does that mean, compromised...? Was it placed by Fred Becky in the fifties?

Matt, NICE! I particulary like the one about owning a gun, along with the last three. It'd be interesting to study the correlation between these variables!

Yeah, good point... I just kinda threw that one in there to find out if people nail pins at local crags. I will revise that question. Some folks have already responded to this survey though e-mail. Thanks alot for your help, but as I said up top, this isn't the finalized survey! I posted this first draft to see what kind of response I'd get. Just looking for feed back and feedback and ideas. And I thought it'd be fun to give people something to spray about! If you are interested in participating in the survey please hold off. I need to meet with my TA about it first. I'll try to have the finished version up, with a better explination of the project, by the end of this week. I am also trying to figure out how people can email me responses, yet still keep it anonymous. Any ideas? Thanks [ 02-05-2002: Message edited by: Lambone ]

Yeah, I'm not doubting his climbing abilities. It just seems unlikely that the accident would be due to anchor failure, especialy since his girlfriend rapped down just before. It seems more likely that he overlooked something in his rap device set up or something. Of course this is pure speculation. I almost rapped off a waterfall clipped into just one chord, it's easy to do if your in a hurry. Talking about it seems kinda weird, I mean no disrespect to the fallen climber, it's really too bad...

quote: Originally posted by chucK: 'Cause you wrote this: If not, than they won't...no big deal. I only need twenty people to fill it out in order to fullfil the course requirement, Don't forget the second part, "the more people that participate the better." That is the only reason why I am considering posting the survey on this web site, maybe it's not such a good idea after all. This isn't a masters thesis, it's a course mini project, my resources for data collection (ie, time and money) are limited. What I ment by that statement was that I won't be upset if people don't want to contribute. RURP, your a funny dude.

Hey there folks! I'm working on a mini research project for a course in geographic research methods (Geo 326). I've decided to look at a sample population of climbers in the Seattle area to determine which local climbing areas are most popular, why, and what are some of the environmental impacts involved. Basically I am going to survey as many climbers as possible in the time frame allotted and analyze the data I obtain through statistical methods. I won't bore you with the details of that stuff. At the moment I am still in the brainstorming process, and am currently putting a list of survey questions together. That’s why I'm posting this...I am looking for more ideas from anyone who is interested in this topic, and I know that many of you are. The questions need to be closed ended so that I can use the data quantitatively (as opposed to qualitative), and they also need to be as unbiased as possible. This is a list of what I have come up with so far. If you feel like adding possible questions please do, if you feel like spraying about what a dork I am, please do that also. nevermind... This survey is still in a draft stage! I am still working on it, so please don’t answer any of these questions yet. I will post the completed survey to the boards in a couple of weeks or so, with a more detailed explanation of my project, and instructions on how to respond to the survey if you wish to do so. Right now I’m just looking for ideas on additional useful questions that I could ask. Any suggestions will be very much appreciated! Thanks -matt [ 02-07-2002: Message edited by: Lambone ]