Lambone

Agreed, I will always have a place for old BP's in my heart, oh and that offer still stands- send me your address.

You probably won't break one...And if you did I'm sure BD has stock piles of them. But if you'd like another hammer, I've got an extra layin around. Let me know and I'll send it too ya.

I agree with Neri, cobras arent worth the pric, unless you got the hook up... The Rages feel pretty good too.

P.S.- As for the team that left a bag-o-shit tied to the belay for us, and the one that stole our much needed supplies out of our tent...Fuck Them. In my opinion hey are a disgrace to the global climbing comunity. [ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]

quote: Originally posted by willstrickland: Easy there Mtngorilla,Europeans are notorious for invading your belay, and no I don't own the route or the rock, but I also don't want you and your two buddies trying to share a 2ft x 2ft platform with me and clippping an extra 700lb to the anchor while I'm trying to belay and encourage my partner. Exactly, I didn't have any problem whats so-ever with the team of five behind us(who happened to have Korean flags sewn to their coats)...until they decided that they were going to share Camp 6 with us at ten o'clock at night. They turned our anchor into a total nightmare, and took three hours to set up their camp. That was just uncalled for when a spacious Camp 5 was only a couple of pitches below us. But as I said, the offered us some Marboro Lights, and we smoked and made the best of it. I just thought it was funny that one guy had to haul the entire route, while one guy just jugged lines and ordered every one else around. The shouting matches that ensued many times throughout the day were anoying (even from far above) but what else can you do but have a laugh about it? [ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]

Yep, your right I'm just a rude bigot who has ethnocetric veiw points towards climbers who visit our National Parks...oh almost forgot, I'm also a hypocrite cause I am just as rude as any of the foreigners that I just dissed on...oh yeah and I am also ignorant about European nationalities and Eastern social customs. Thanks for reminding me of all that, I almost forgot. All I'm sayin is that of the few encounters I've had with forigners on climbing routes, almost all of them have been bad. That is a fact...if you don't like that I am stating this fact, then you can just suck it. Rurp, we wouldn't let them pass because they were a hell of alot slower than us, they just climbed well into the dark hours to catch up to us. We only saw them in the morning and by headlamp at night. We din't yell any racial slurs, we just told them to shut the fuck up and leave us alone. What would you say to me If I was screaming at you at 5:00 in the morning? And no, we did not piss on, or anywhere near them. [ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]

Yeah, good question...never heard of that spot. Doesn't sound like its in danger of becoming overcrowded any time soon. [ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]

I wasn't trying to pick on any Nationality in particular... The point of my stupid stories was that foreigners seem to be less respectful of their fellow climbers, or at least less respectful of Americans. Of course lots of Americans suck too, but I think we have less attitude than climbers from other parts of the world. Maybe I'm just being patriotic. That assumption is based on my experiences alone, and I am totaly open to debate. Thats why I brought it up, I'm curious about other opinions on the issue, and it seemed to fit the "crowd" topic. So you can call me a bigot or whatever, but at least I have an opinion. If your gunna dis on me, at least back your shit up... P.S. Thanks epb + max, and caveman...well I won't even go there. [ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]

It ain't really conditions either...It's cool spray though, in my opinion... What the fuck, still no BC ice page Oh well...

Yeah, your right... The quary scar gives it alot of charm too

The anchors on top of the 5.6 crack on the GNS are overkill. They are an eye sore and a let down after a aesthetic natural crack. Whoever put them up there obviously doesn't know much about proper fixed anchors. First of all, they are poorly positioned, and second, a simple two bolt system would have worked fine. But then again, the huge railroad bolts are pretty lame too [ 12-09-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]

Saw one of those "buttsled runnels" on the South Side of Adams this summer... just watch out for butt rash!

Yup, especialy in winter when they like to hangout by the plowed roads. Also lots of people with huge telophoto lenses and telescopes. But hey, why stop to look at wolves when there is sweet Ice Climbing 30 minutes down the road in Cooke City

Ok, I'll try... How about Bigfoot Boulder Catapulting... or Extreme Floatation Diving... Anybody else got one?

Is that the coolest name you could come up with? Come on...you can do better then that

quote: Originally posted by Wallstein: Anyonne know where in the PNW I can try these boots on. I am yet to find a place that carries the Cerro Torres. Feathered Friends carries the lime green ones, I think they are the uninsulated version, but should be built on the same last as the red ones.

BTW- you might want to do something about the Home command button on the About page. It kinda blocks stuff. ----Nevermind, it only does if the window is minimized. [ 12-08-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]

Fine art huh..., thats mighty noble of you. Nice pics man...

Hahaha... This is getting a bit off epbs original topic, but if you like boring El Cap stories by all means read on. Take note- I meen no offense towards Koreans, any other nationality or ethnic group for that matter... The whole scene involving the team behind us was unlike anything I had ever seen before in climbing. Like pope explained above these guys had a very structured team system. Each member had a specific job, and it was quite the corporate hierarchy. One guy (the ropegun) led every pitch, one guy (the bitch) hauled every pitch, one guy cleaned every pitch, and the oldest (the boss) barked orders at every one else. I never figured out exactly what the fifth guy did, maybe he was in charge of packing all their crap up, and they had about six haulbags worth of crap! I've allway thought that it seemed to be an interesting technique for getting a large team up a wall. From our point of view it was pretty entertaining! Of course, there was no way we were going to let them pass us, but every morning they would get up at about 5:00 and start getting ready. They'd yell up to wake us up and get moving. We call down profanities and around 8:00 or so we'd crawl out of or bags whip it out and give them a pissing contest! Regardless of our differences, we were all pretty damn happy to be up there together. Until they showed up at Camp 6... [ 12-08-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]

quit talking to yourself shawn...

What could I do, call the Rock Cops?! Trust me I wanted to push him off, but he would have been falling onto my gear that I was also clipped to!!!! Mostly I was just gripped on a Yosemite 5.8 crack, and I didn't know what to think...it was my first route in Yosemite and I was totaly awstruck by the glory of the valley. The dude cruzed out on the face about ten feet left of me, just smiled and went right on by whisteling the Austrian National Anthem or something. The weird part was when I met up with him at the belay... He didn't speak english so I just scoweled at him. Everything he did from his anchor set up to his belay tecniques were totaly foriegn to me. He was more than twice my age and his equipment looked abut 4 times as old as mine. So no, I didn't say much about it. Hell, I was only fifteen, I was also dieing of thirst and he gave me some candy so I just let it go... That is just one story, one time a group of 5 Koreans thought they would join us for the night on Camp 6(room for 3) on the Nose. HAHAHAHA.... They even had portaledges, but just wanted to be on our ledge...they ended up giving us lots of smokes, so it was all good. Or there's that time that the Germans above us left a bag of shit tied to the belay... And that one time when the Spanish team stole our fuel and food out of Camp 1... The list goes on... American climbers may be slow, but I have never run into any that are rude vile theives. Am I a little bitter...what, does it show? [ 12-08-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]

I was leading a pitch on the classic Nutcracker in Yosem. when some Austrian dude climbed around my belayer and started clipping into my pieces with his draws. Then he climbed right around me...I was dumbfounded, speechless, and super pissed about it. Sure I was kinda slow cause it was one of my first multi-pitch routes, but COME ON!!! I had every right to be pissed, the dude didn't even ask first...at the time I was young and unaware of European tactics. That kind of behavior may be the norm in Europe, but this is our home turf, and they should play by our rules. At the least be curtious enough to ask first. This experience left a very bad taste in my mouth towards foriegn climbers. I would also feel uncomfortable with a soloist climbing directly above me. They are are not only risking their lives, but mine too. It's just like the whole smoker issue... People have the right to be concerned about their saftey and well being, and reserve the right to be pissed if some one is endangering it. That kind of behavior is both selfish, and inconsiderate towards your fellow climbers. It doesn't matter how good you think you are...it's about respect. If you are a stranger soloing above me, I have absolutly no confidence in your skills, why should I...not just 'cause you are ballsy enough to climb without a rope. Then again, being friendly first goes a long way! [ 12-08-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]

werd epb! Oh and Pope, my previous post was not nescesarly directed toward you. Just narrow minded grumpy old-schoolers in general... [ 12-08-2001: Message edited by: Lambone ]