Lambone

So whats up with the report post whistle blower? Who does it report to? Jon?

Dwayner, Didn't you just do Dreamer recently? Doesn't it have a bunch of bolts on it? Is that route better than a typical long sport route because it has cracks as well? Fess up dude, you went sport climbing...what gives man, when will you start practicing what you preach?

quote: Originally posted by rr666: I can't agree with you more Erik. For 99% of us climbing is not about making money by getting our pics in the mags by purplepointing some climb. Tomorrow, they will have a new name for another style. For us it does not matter. For us, it is about going out having some fun, challenging ourselves, being in the outdoors. All that good stuff that has to do with ourselves, not with what someone says in a mag. no way dude! climbing is all about making money and being famous...looking tough in the photos, impressing people, getting chicks and sponsors. It's all about what others think of you and your acomplishments. You and erik need to get your priorities straight.

I don't kow dude...it's just something to talk about...and I'm bored, gimme a break. It doesn't bother me that they did it...it bothers me that they claim to have freed it when all the protection was placed on aid. [ 08-05-2002, 12:52 PM: Message edited by: Lambone ]

Send me a PM, I wanna hear the joke. SK, no offense...but I assume you learned to walk when you about 2 years old, not sure why you'd want to be taught again?

Sorry can't help... Just thought it was interesting, cause last time I was at the hospital a gril came in with a broken rib from a sailing accident. She had to weight for over an hour, and looked to be in alot of pain. Hope you feel better soon.

Regardless of what its called, pre-placeing draws on a sport route doesn't seem like such a big deal to me, the bolts are there allready, whats the big deal? Pr-placing gear on a trad route is totaly different. It may be the only safe way to do it, but it seems more like sport climbing than trad climbing to me. It kinda bothers me (just a little) that all these burly climbers are claiming first free ascents on El Cap when they aided up and place the gear first...thats BS.

nice, did you downclimb, or rap? most of my soloing is with a rope and a very large rack, but I love it...

nice, sounds like a plan I can commit to...

screw smith rock, lets bolt some shit up in Leavenworth!

So can you bring dirt bikes up in that area as well?

since when did I belittle the mountaineers, posuers, gapers or anyone who doesn't climb 5.10 off the couch? Public trouble? It seemed pretty damn private when we were up there... oh well, at least Pappy is getting some good "beta"

he started it... we did the full route from ingalls. getting to the toe is kind of a pain in ass, but it's not so bad. the cascadian is smooth (if the correct gullyis taken) and the hike over longs pass isn't too bad. it's probably alot more elevation gain and loss if you go over ingals and goat pass, but after doing the long ridge I was glad to have a non-technical walk off. I guess if you have a Ford Explorer or a Jeep, yu should be able to get it up to Ingalls Lake no problem.

yeah sucker...and you just better hope that you never need anyones help in the mountains just might be a bit much for your ego

quote: Originally posted by Highlander: no chopper needed, I do not call in rescues when the shit hits the fan. I just walk down. well then have fun dick just wondering what kinda vehicle can get to ingals lake... oh, and when we descended the cascadian in a storm we ended up going down the wrong gully. you see it was dark, we had been on the move for 18 hours and had never been there before, ended up curling up in my pack while getting pissed on till dawn. I'd recomend getting the beta on the Cascadian if you've never been there...but don't ask me. [ 08-05-2002, 07:53 PM: Message edited by: Lambone ]

Cathedral is well worth it, once you see it from the road you will know. The climbing is never difficult but very fun, the rock and veiws are beautiful. For a challange link it up with the Eichorn Pinnicle. Or solo it under the moonlight... It is very popular though and I'd recomend doing it on the weekday if possible. Start either very early or late afternoon. The approach takes about 2 hours and the route takes about 3-5 hours for the average party, or 30min if soloed. Have fun! [ 08-05-2002, 07:51 PM: Message edited by: Lambone ]

they can kiss my "sloppy"

we need a "drool" icon!

Not quite sure what this means..."We have the ability to leave a vehicle at Ingalls Lake to decend via cascadian couloir and avoid a north side decent if approaching via stuart lake." Are you going to leave a chopper at ingals lake? I hear the Sherpa Glacier becomes difficult later in the season, don't know current conditions. Going in from the south isn't bad, longer appoach but "easy" descent. [ 08-05-2002, 06:16 PM: Message edited by: Lambone ]

Hey ryland, I don't think the Stuart Trail head is closed. when we did it we came from goat pass and descended down to the toe of the butress. you stay on top of the moriane pretty much the whole way, and cross under the stuart glacier. There are a couple of snow patch crossings that you might want a light tool for, but we did not need crampons. Be sure to stay on top of the moriane. My buddy tried to drop straight down and almost killed himself in a landslide. It's really not that bad, took us abot 30-45min from goat pass, and could easily be done quicker. Do the whole ridge, it's worth it.

pretty funny Dwany, but you better watch out cause my mom could easily kick your ass to the curb

go for it sk, it's a mellow climb. Just practice self arrest a few times before it gets too steep. We climbed the Mazama glacier (another "mellow" route), and when it met the South Spur we were greeted by kids in jeans, tennis shoes, and walking sticks (from the woods). Things almost got rough when they pulled out subway sandwhiches...

Only if we bivi on the summit in my I-tent...and the weather looks shitty

too bad we couldn't get any reception in the icicle this weekend...

I believe Rodden and Caldwell used pre placed gear on Lurking Fear as well. Then again, the Shield was done clean after the cruxes were fixed beforehand... I think this kinda thing happens in all aspects of climbing. Hell, people have pre-placed food on the Pacific Crest Trail. Does that make it a Pink-Hike?