hollyclimber

Someone (Ray?) let me know if you are serious. I was going to snowshoe up to Lake Serene tomorrow with my dog, but I might come do some aiding if you guys are going to be out there. Ray, check your PM if you are still around. Holly

Cavey I thought you were saving yourself for me!

snoop doggy dog is in the house......

I can't believe we have to constantly address this crap. Here is the situation:This site is not set up to be nice to people (I don't know if Alex complained about that, but it is a normal complaint) This site is not to provide a supportive and loving environment for the purpose of making sure that all people want to post here (that's for Matt, since that was his complaint a month ago or so) And, this site is full of stupid spray. In the spray section and elsewhere. If you don't like it, don't read it. We are here for entertainment value and because we like the site the way it is. If we stopped the spray, most people's favorite posters would stop posting. So, I suggest that Alex join on in and start spraying. Then he might figure out how fun it is. Just have to say something. Why is it that people think they should get to change this place? Holly (and Dagen...so there Z)

Its true. Call them at (800) 671-5323. I just bought an "Onsight"- duel color 9.9mm 60 meter dry rope for $106.90 including shipping. As they are shipping from Utah there was no sales tax. Thanks for the tip Darren. I needed a new rope and that was the right price. Duel color rocks, but it can be expensive. hgb

Mine is a 9.9 60 meter dual color dry rope. It seems fine to me, but I don't know the stats. I do know that it was purchased for me as a gift for close to $200 at Marmot in Bellevue.

TTT- Was this the accident that Lisa Petrie's husband died in? She was my co-worker, and I remember it was a bad thing when they stopped searching and the families then had to take up the search on their own. Holly

Sounds like a lot of people will be trying to climb at Smith. I don't know some of you, so if you see me with my big black white and tan dog and his new red backpack, say hi. We are hard to miss usually. He is big and loud, and I am smaller but also loud. who knows where we will be...basically everywhere, maybe even the marsupials at some point. See you there. holly and dagen

climb at Smith....Thanksgiving Dinner at Redmond Sharis...all are welcome to join us. holly

OH Cavey...that cuts straight to the heart you know!I'll try not to take it too personally. After all, if you hadn't flailed on Traffic Light or Overly Board (whichever it was) the weekend you met Ron Kauk at Smith, maybe you would like it better. Can't wait to see you at the pub club tonight so that you can tell me you are sorry for slamming my favorite winter crag.

Cavey...I only want to climb with you...what is this other nonsense. Charlie...I have no idea what you yell... Lambone...if I see you I'll tell you about it, because it was fun. I was just throwing out some crap that only a few people who read this board would know about, because they were there when it happened...when the voice from God called to us on the wall. Its not really that cryptic. hgb

But with Smith just check this.... www.theweatherisalwaysgoodatsmithsojustgetyourassdownthereandgoclimbingandneverbothertochecktheweather.com or better yet www.theweatherisreallycrappyatsmiththistimeoftheyearsodontbothercomingdownhereandjamminguptheroutes.com

Speaking of Mescalito (and since this is a thread about a million different things) this goes out to everyone out there who knows what I am talking about........... CLIMBERS ON EL CAPITAN, TURN OUT YOUR LIGHTS...ARE YOU ON MESCALITO?ARE YOU ON PITCH 20?ARE YOU ON PITCH 21?............DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISHDO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH AS YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE?DO YOU SPEAK SPANISH AS YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE... And, to those of you (and you know who you are) who DO know what I am talking about, send me an email, because folks like you are the folks I want to be talking to. (I know...I'm weird...but Charlie... I am NO SANDBAGGER!) holly

Hey, I didn't ASK for it. I asked everyone if we wanted it. And, that was a fun discussion. I am proud to have the same rating as Cavey. I must have some enemies. hgb

I thought the idea was to drink a lot of tequila first, and then go climbing. That way, if you are not using your best crack technique, or if the crack is just tearing into you, you won't feel any pain and you send.

Are all our private messages that we had before in our box deleted? It looks like it!

You forgot the one about leaving a seat between you and your buddy at the movie theatre. I have always thought that was so wierd!

To my pub club pals.... Sorry that I have been missing you. The life of the newly single often requires neglecting of the pub club. After all, I can't neglect the crag on the weekend, so something has to go! But, in all seriousness, I will have to make sure and come next week so that you all still remember me. Is there such a thing as a pub that allows dogs? Maybe when I close on my house I will have to have pub club at my place. Dagen just hates being left out. hgb

But is there like a Bible of these research results? Do I trust a spreadsheet on TradGirl.com? Who conducted the test? Was it scientific? You know what I am saying here. Maybe it is because I am an accountant, and for that work I have to be 100% sure of what my source is and the degree of authority I can give it, but I want authoritative data. When a guide spouts off data on the EDK, where are they getting it from? Tradgirl?

I guess I assumed sexual chocolate was a man... I actually think Jon is pretty attractive. I saw him when I was getting ready to climb Bo Derek and he was trying some sick route to the left with 2 buddies. I didn't know it was him when I noticed that he was at a minimum easier on the eyes then his buddies, but after he left my friends filled me in.

Mneagle-- a) I see myself as Dagny Taggert. Way cooler (and I like Ayn Rand). b) You aren't supposed to say that there is a "John Galt". It ruins the mystery. c) she is nuts, but its very interesting to read. I'll have to check out Twight now.

This is great because I am headed on an out of town trip today, and I needed some suggestions on what to read. I have to hit the Borders in my building before I leave town, otherwise I am going to be stuck reading my "tax research" textbook. Argh.

Mr chocolate----- I just can't answer your intensely introspective questions, they hurt my brain. Its just climbing, don't think about it. Go talk about your author on the what do you read thread...maybe someone else will have an opinion on him. I have never heard of him. [This message has been edited by hollyclimber (edited 10-17-2001).]

Here is what I want to know... Some people, like Lambone just the other day, always seem to know the ratings of everything (ie how many kilonewtons until you get to the center of the tootsie roll pop). How do I find this stuff out? For example, I had someone tell me all this info about using flat overhand knots and how safe they are etc. If I want to go and look up this data to validate it, where do I go? Or, if you threw away the paper that came with your #2 camalot, and you wanted to read all the geeky fine print, same question...where to go. By the way, if anyone thinks that a .5 camalot wouldn't fail under a "normal" 80 foot fall, you should see the shred of a camming device that I got to see at the pub last weekend. Crazy sh*t. Freaked me out big time.

You know Tim, you are SO close to answering my quiz question, but then you also had advance beta. Seriously, Atlas Shrugged is the best book I have ever read, and it makes the route named after a feature in the book even more fun to climb now (even though I got spanked on it the last time I went up). The thing with guide books that is so cool is that you can read them over and over, and never get sick of them. If you haven't done the route yet, you are dreaming of when you will. If you have done it, you are trying to remember what the hell it was like! Or, ok, enjoying your memories of the climb.