Alasdair

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I have used several sat phones and they will work anywhere in WA that has visible site line to the satalites. The Satalites are not orbiting over washington they are farther south (texas I believe) so if you are in a deep valley you may not have coverage. Also the further you go north the worse they are. I have used them in alaska and that was almost a total waste of time. They will get reception if you are on flat ground or on a hill but they tend to drop calls a lot and get that gargled sound that you might hear on satalite feeds from Iraq reporters, but much worse. Also note that I have not used a phone in a few years so it may have gotten better, but I believe the satalites and network are all the same one that was there several years ago as it is too damn expensive to put new one up, and any one who did is now bankrupt.

I will take hell because I wont have to hang out with fuckwads like you.

I would not go out of my way to ridicule the christians if they would just understand what the fuck the constitution was talking about when it stated the need for a seperation of church and state. Until all of the bible thumbing whackos in our government stop talking about "family values", i.e. taking your kids to church, and being against abortion, etc. then I will feel free to tell every bible thumping person to fuck off.

Dont waste your money. They would never stick into snow, and would blow over at the first gust of wind. THey also are not long enough to be usefull.

This sounds identical to the problems I had/have. I would have to guess that you do not streatch prior to hiking. YOu need to start. It is your IT band, and the way to solve the problem is by streatching. I could not walk correctly for a couple of weeks after I got this for the first time. Start streatching now. I had to streatch every day for 2-3 months untill I increased my flexability sufficiently to fix the problem. In addition I still have to streach every time I hike. There are several streatches that work. your typical hamstring streach is first, and then streaches for the IT band. It took me a long time to find one that worked for me. When you get the right one you will know it because you will hate doing it. If you start now you might be able to hike again by summer. As far as going to the Dr goes... YOu will go in, they will tell you to streatch and tell you if it still hurts in two months come back.

I will put a vote in for Geeting. Lets put it this way; if you have good weather, all of the services will basically be the same(except k2, They suck). If you have bad weather and you are stuck on the glacier, you have a much better chance of getting out if you go with Geeting. In addition you have a better chance of getting a free flightseeing tour in because Doug will mix up flight seeing and climbers more than others might. Every time I have flown I got to see lots extra. If you have not been there before it is well worth it.

I was born in Paisley.

How about a comparison between rescue costs of Boaters and that of climbers, and be sure to note that there is never any talk of getting boaters to pay for their coast guard rescues. As far as fees go: I pay the climbing fee for Mount Rainier The enchantments fees from the Fuckhead forrest service rangers at Levenworth. (very grudgingly) I have never bought any other permit for climbing. I think a great story would be why is the Levenworth Ranger station so full of fuckwads while many of the other ranger stations in this state have great freindly staff who acutally seem to care. Hidden cammera on Mr. Snow creek Nazi ranger so others can see what a asshole he is.

I was in the exact position Necro was a couple of years ago. Two overdue climbers who did not show up to work the next day. I called the sherrif office to see if there car was still in the parking lot. The sherrif took over. They asked a couple of questions, such as route, when they left, when they were expected back, and it was done. If you call the sherrif to ask some questions they will almost alway initiate a rescue because that is the prudent thing to do. The faster they get there the more chance that they are not doing a body recovery. Thumbs up Necro. YOu did the correct thing by calling. And I am guessing that it was not you that initiated the rescue but the sherrif telling you that they were going. It is the climbers responsibility to tell someone when they will be back. If they are not back then make that call.

I had one and it got ripped off. It was the best peice of gear i have owned for a while. I was really bummed and decided I needed another so I went to MEC and bought an almost identical sholler jacket for $130 canadian. Dont waste your money on the Arc Teryx logo, because that is all you get for the extra money.

Too bad that basically no one here would have a chance of getting the job. That is unless you are currently employed by the govenment (with or without skills), a minority, a woman, or are being demoted from your previous govenment position because you fucked up so bad, but they cant fire you.

I like most of the suggestions. Add one VERY important item. You should take a space blanket. Not one of those shitty $1.99 ones. You want to get one of the heavy duty $9.99 ones that have the durrablity of a garden tarp. On those nice weather aclimatization or rest days the only thing you will want to do is get out of the sun. Hang this over your tent or make a vesabule if the wind is not blowing too much. See this picture... http://www.nwclimber.com/climbing/trips/hunter2002/Scan84.jpg FYI: that is wayne1112 in the picture.

I will second the excellent climbing conditions on hood right now. Was up there this weekend and managed to hit the summit three times via the West crater rim, Leuthold and the hogsback. Leuthold was in really good shape mostly ice for the last 1000 ft.

There is nothing down low... obviously. But... There was considerable ice formations on rock areas higher. Anything facing north seemed to have alot of ice. For example all of the rock cliffs on the right side of the shoot up to the tooth were totally covered in relatively thick ice. This could make for some good mixed climbing. I Think that anything steep on north aspects will have a pretty good covering of ice. It looks like there has actually been pretty good conditions up there for the formation of ice routes. I could see N face of Snoqualmie and it looked like it could be in. Not just a little but fairly fat. I am almost positive that the NE slabs route on the tooth is in. I have no idea on chair peak.

Yea thanks specialed, anyone else?

Any one know if there is anything climbable up at alpental right now. I am heading up there in a little while to get out.

Rat - One thing to think about with your support on cutting to supress fire. It doesnt do shit, it is a farce. In a forrest fire generally the lumber (i.e. the part of the tree that the logging company wants) does not burn. Even in really bad fires (see pictures of yellowstone). When you go in and strip all of the limbs off of a tree, leave them on the ground to dry, and remove all of the lumber it actually makes the area more likely to burn. This is a bullshit argument that pro logging is using to up the cut in our forrests.

And 50% of that 40% probably does not understand what unilateral even means, and for that matter could not point to the middle east on a map.

As a citizen of either the US or the UK you are expected to make your own political desisions, whether or not they agree with the politicians of that country or not. I happen to not agree with war, because it will not be seen as liberation it will be seen as an attack on a muslim country, and will end up making the world a more dangerous place for us, not a safer one (my opinion here). FYI: I happen to be a US citizen.

FYI: No one cares what the queens opinion is, and considering the overall human rights record of the British Royal family, I would not be supprised if the queen wanted to drop A-bombs.

Trask, most of your posts simply border on the retarded. Do you ever think for yourself? Or have you always sprayed out of you ass, the regurgitated shit that you here on right wing talk shows. You seriously need to do a little reading and educate your self on some issues. Oh and BTW fox news does not count. Try these sources... www.bbcnews.com http://www.economist.com/ Or a little closer to home www.NYT.com

Makes no difference to me anymore since I have not been to a gym or a sport crag in a year, and dont really care to.

I dont really remeber exacly but I believe the hold was just after about the 4th bolt maybe the 5th right in the seam. It was one of those nice big holds that you could layback off of. Now you have to do a little traverse to the left on tiny little holds to get up.

Easier on top rope? I dont know what you are talking about. I highly recomend going when it is in the 40s. The tiny edges on that thing do not take to warm rock shoes very well. I think it snowed just after I got to the anchors.