Alasdair

Done! Thanks.

Gee, with an argument like that, you've sure go ME convinced. Did you take your moron pill this morning, or is it PMS? I dont think I was trying to convince you of anything.

There currently is no evidence one way or the other. It is fucking stupid to say I think one group did it over another, when you dont really have a fucking clue who did it. It is like anounching who one the presidential election before anyone knows who one. But wait that has never happened has it.

But you still really dont have a fucking clue

Your kidding right? Everett is a total shit hole.

But you really have no fucking idea, so who cares who you randomly think it is. You post is about as useful as a fox news online pole.

Keep in mind that it is very possible that any marking that were there could be removed or covered with other markings.

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As far as MOFA courses go, I took one in the fall. It seems the only group to take this course with in the puget sound area is the Mountaineers. I found the class to be very limited in scope and usefullness. For example asking questions about what to do in a party of two situation I recieved answers like "you shouldnt climb in parties of two" and " what type of climbing are you doing with only one other partner?" The instructors were horrible causing us to give them the nicknames bumblefuck and the anti-Twight. In addition, it was impossible to get any information regarding drugs that should be carried on long expeditions. I understand that this is likely due to lawyers, but it was pretty fucking retarded to tell a class that asprin is the only drug you should carry in the back country. I would recomend you go get certified for CPR, and then buy a fucking book and read it for the rest. you will learn more, and wont waste a shit load of time. Or go take a wilderness first responder class.

From the web site... Tactics that won't help I assume that your objective is to receive less mail. You might also be interested in encouraging mailers to send junk mail less often. The following are tactics that won't succeed at either of these goals, but (if you're vindictive) might make you feel better. Using Business Reply Envelopes to complain will usually not get the attention of the mailing company. If you attach them to a brick or overfill the envelope, the post office will discard them. If you send them back empty, or with a complaint about the catalogue you didn't want, they'll be discarded by the people who open the envelopes. The mail is usually opened by people who get paid by the hour, and aren't asked to relay complaints or count the number of replies that didn't contain orders. Your use of the BRE will cost them money, but they'll never notice it, so this won't cause them to change the way they do business. (Unless the number of people sending empty BRE's becomes a substantial fraction of the number sending orders. This might lower the effectiveness enough that they'd stop doing mail order. Not likely.) If you want the company to pay attention, get in touch with their customer service people. Most of the time, the company never even saw your name, so they can't do much to keep you from getting future ads. They buy lists from other companies, and those other companies are the ones you need to get in touch with. They might be interested if you were offended by their ad, but otherwise they'll just point out that many people order merchandise from them in response to the mailing. If you want to stop getting the mail, find out who they buy names from, and get those people to stop selling your name.

I have done this and yes it was a lot of fun, but it does not do shit to reduce the flow of junk mail. There are a couple of useful websites that will reduce junk mail. First go to the direct marketing associations web site and pay the fucking $5 and you will stop recieving all those credit card offers. It worked for me. If you are not quite as lazy as I, and dont want to pay the $5 then you can mail in a form that will do the same thing. This really does work. It reduced my junk mail by 90%. Direct marketing web site. There are other ways to reduce junk mail also they can be found on this site. web page Keep in mind that sending that shit back does cost the company money, but it also wastes resources and your time. Spend the 10 mins and do it right.

Does anyone actually rope up on Leuthold? Is there any reason to?

And if there are any raptors nesting near the crag you should stay the hell away. First because they need room to nest, and secondly because they will fuck you up really bad if you get too close.

I learned to climb mostly at climbing areas in the Coburg Hills. There are several areas, with anything from really hard to really easy. It is all on private property and most of the owners will not give access to anyone. Sadly I suggest you find somewhere else to climb.

I would recomend the rupal face.

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Ray, although this axe by itself is probably not worth more than about $50 -$100, it is an axe that has real worth just by its history. Althought I hate to see it go out of the northwest, the American Alpine Club has a museum in CO. Another option, if you could talk Fred out of a couple of more items would be to approach the Museum of Hisory and idustry into an exibit on northwest moutnaineering. I am sure there are several people on this board with enough items to start a nice exibit at a local museum. We were talking to the woman who runs the Mt Erie grocery last weekend, and she said that Dallas Kloke has some old climbing gear he was going to put up a little historical display in the store there when his new guidebook finally comes out. And I know that Otto Trott's widow has the Duke of Abruzzi's ice axe (a friend bought their house a couple of years ago.) So it seems like there is a lot of stuff out there to put together a pretty respectable display at MOHAI if someone were willing to take the lead. Lowell Skoog? Harry Majors? I would volunteer some time, but I have absolutly no contacts.

NE buttress of Sir Donald. Took the girlfriend up it last year. All was fine until about 2 pitches from the top when the exposure finally got to her and she demanded immediate retreat. She wants to go back and finish it this year.

Ray, although this axe by itself is probably not worth more than about $50 -$100, it is an axe that has real worth just by its history. Althought I hate to see it go out of the northwest, the American Alpine Club has a museum in CO. Another option, if you could talk Fred out of a couple of more items would be to approach the Museum of Hisory and idustry into an exibit on northwest moutnaineering. I am sure there are several people on this board with enough items to start a nice exibit at a local museum.

rupal face

I dunno, but I believe an engine did fall off of a DC-10 taking off from O'Hare Airport a few decades ago. http://www.super70s.com/Super70s/Tech/Aviation/Disasters/79-05-25(Chicago).asp yep several DC-10s lost engines. I have never heard of a 737 or 757 loosing an engine.

actually, yea. an evergreen cargo 747 in anchorage about 8 years ago lost the engine over town. Apparently you cant read... 737 + 757 !=747

In millions upon millions of flights, has an engine ever fallen off of a 737, or 757? Think about that next time you fly accros the country.

Dont fuck around on Denali. Take the right equipment. If you are sitting at 17k camp and you find yourself spooning with your stinky hairy nasty climbing partner then you will wish you had shelled out for the warmer bag. I have not been on Denali, but I can tell you that I was damn glad I had bought a new bag when I was on Foraker. Put it on the credit card.

Thanks, I am going to assume that they are all really dangerous and stay the fuck away. As far as the dynamite goes; it is not the only thing that is likely to explode if you touch it. I have done a couple of mine cleanups, and there are all sorts of chemicals common in mining that are very unstable after sitting around for a while. So I guess I would like to add dont touch anything in bottles, or tins if you go in to a mine.