Alasdair

Read Beckeys book. It has the complete info on the green rock. Very interesting geologically. Yes it is serpentinite.

Yea Ade, you suck! Trask you are finally correct.

The daily Alaska air flight into or out of Unalaska airport in Dutch harbor flying on a 737. Basically drop out of clouds to a point where the wing of the heavily banked aircraft skims accross the water, level aircraft quickly, drop 40 feet onto runway and immediatly hit the brakes. Take off requires taxi to the end of the runway spin the plane around hit the brakes and run engiens to full throttle (plane starts to hop somwhat). Let go of the brakes. Imediatly after leaving the runway banks plane very sharply to avoid mountain on other side of bay and attempt to climb. From one web site: The paved runway extends for 3,900 feet. The facility is at an elevation of 22 feet at a distance of about one mile from Unalaska. From another web site describing 737 take off distance. This pilot thought the distance necessary to land and take off a 737 could be considerably less than the 8,000' mentioned by the first pilot. My second pilot contact said that by limiting fuel and passenger loads, and the use of performance landings and take offs, the distance needed could be as little as 5,000'

I really suggest you get in touch with the local sheriff office before you take matters into your own hands. I think you would be suprised how effective a letter to the Sheriff can be if it is intellegently written and offers suggestions on how you can be contacted to help them in there investigation, etc. These type if letters might be espesially effective if you mention that the climbing community is so sick of this problem that you are concerned they will take matters into there own hands. For example, your letter could look like this: Ever since moving to Washington almost 10 years ago I have spent much of my free time hiking. In order to hike one must leave there car at trail heads to the mercy of any who might be walking by. Several times a year I return to my car only to find a window smashed out and contents of the vehicle stolen. The problem is so prevalent that on any given day it is fairly likely that at least one car in any popular parking area will be broken into and any contents stolen. I have learned not to leave anything of value in my car, but this means I have to be content with my AM radio (anything better will be stolen). I personally have had my car broken into numerous times I know of. After each time I call the sheriff department in the area that the break in occurred and usually get a response of "you should not leave anything valuable in you car", there for blaming the victims instead of the criminals breaking in, or the police that should be enforcing the laws. If these problems are not dealt with by the proper authorities I am concerned that the hiking and climbing community will take matters into there own hands. Several of the internet bulletin boards have people discussing this. By ignoring this problem, the King County Sheriff department is creating a very dangerous situation in which the public confront the criminals by setting up stings of there own with the potential for catastrophic results. Almost anyone active in the hiking or climbing community would be happy to help the King County Sheriff in dealing with these problems by giving them information on where these incidents are taking place and what time they usually happen. I would be happy to assist you with contacts of citizens who would be willing to assist the sheriff department in dealing with this matter. Thank you for you time.

Hummmm. Lets see... It will likely be the same as every other year at this time. Possibly a little snow at the base that might be nice to have crampons to cross, or can be skirted around. The desent will have a snow field. If you dont take crampons then you walk an extra half mile around and go down from there. Oh and later in the season there will be less snow.

My favorite thing about America is McDonalds and this countries willingness to share the wonderful food with the rest of the world. Ahh if only the whole world was fat.

Can anyone tell me which creek is access creek. I am heading in to Luna this weekend, and route descriptions reference Access creek. I can not find access creek labeled on any map. Can someone help me figure out which one it is? I can see an luna creek and a Mcmillan creek. Is access creek the one between the two?

Plan on them being a nightmare. Last weekend I encountered the worst bugs I have ever encountered anywhere on the north side of Stuart. I am heading in to Luna and am fully expecting a complete nightmare. Bring the Cancer causing bug juice. Its the only stuff that works.

We froze our asses off getting basically no sleep, and having to heat water ever two hours or so to keep from shivering. I was wondering about that headlamp also. I have no idea what the fuck they were doing. I was thinking that they may have mistaken that for the Cascadian and gone down the wrong thing, and then had to come back up after getting cliffed out.

So what time did you get back to camp? How was the decent of the Sherpa Glacier?

If your going this weekend it should be a complete fuck show of mountaineers and other idiots. Do the east ridge and avoid the fools.

Dont remember the name of the movie but I think it had Stefan Glowitz (sp) in it. It was about Cerro Torre, and had some of the best scenery I have ever seen in it. As always the plot is laughable but the movie is worth renting. Good luck finding it. Scarecrow video maybe.

So anyone here had the joy of crossing Big Beaver creek this time of year? Is there an easy way accross? Any hints?

Ok here a hard one for you guys. Hint: its in the N. Cascades. N. cascades peak.

The crows outside my window better fledge early because after 30 days of continuous noise, I am about 5 more days from forcing them to fly from their nest.

I think you were talking with Bill/ To The Top Hey Thatguy, were you that grumpy old man that on hearing my name said, "Oh you're a liberal," and walked off. Any one who comes to the cc.com BBQ and does not want to talk to any liberals is likely to have problems finding people to talk to.

Oh and Easy ridge is one of the best areas I have ever been to. It really is easy because there is a big ass trail the whole way up the ridge and once on the ridge the hike is about as good as it gets. Climbing Challenger via easy ridge reqires zero bushwacking and is very enjoyable.

Or an easy river crossing: David Parker crossing chilliwack

Thinking of a melow trip up Luna peak. Is the approach information in the nelson guide the best way to go? Any one have any beta on the approach?

So you made a claim to get some fucking windows replaced and the insurance company then jacked up your rate so you really ended up paying for the fucking window any way. Even if they did not jack your rate if you have real claim in the next two years they they will drop you and you will be fucked. Apparently you have beat out the insurance agents on the dumb scale Trask.

Both of the insurance agents I worked with seemed really fucking dumb. Maybe they are trained to act dumb. After getting hit by the car the Gieco adjuster and I had a 45 minute conversation about why the accident was infact 100% their clients fault and not 85% their fault. Their were points during this conversation where I simply burst out laughing because what the guy was saying was so fucking stupid. After about two weeks I finally got it in writing that it was in fact 100% their clients fault.

I have had several dealings with insurance companies and not had too much problem. I did not hire lawyers mostly because in my experience the type of lawyers who will do this type of work are worse to deal with than the insurance agent. What I found was that insurance adjusters have their job because they are stupid. In addition they are trained to be assholes. Lawyers who work in this industry are not quite as stupid and are also assholes. It is easier to deal with a stupid asshole than a not so stupid asshole. Insurance adjusters seem to want one thing: To get your claim off of their desk as quickly as possible. When I got hit by a car on my bike I simply created a list of exactly how many hours I was not able to do the things I wanted: most notably climbing. So after 7 months I had a list of hours that the accident had caused me to loose of my life. I then put a dollar value to these hours (My work salary at the time), and told the insurance company that is what I wanted a check for. At first they laughed. So evey time they called me to try and get me to sign their settlement paper I hung up on the insurance agent when he offered less. After about 8 months of dealing with this shmuck he called one day and says " I managed to work something out for you." And then he offered exactly what I asked for. I got the check later that day and also wrote in to the settlement that I would have paid dr visits for any future elbow tendonitis that resulted from my accident.

I dont always choose to wear one, and that is my choice. I dont really think there should be any laws that protect a person from hurting themselves. Laws to stop people from hurting others are a good idea, but simply to protect us from ourselves is stupid. I wear a helmet on group rides, and much of the time when I am on the roads of Seattle. When I am on the BG early in the morning on my way to work and there is no one else there I usually just wear my wool hat. There is no reason for the cops to give me a ticket for that.

Then I will say it for you. Fuck the Pigs. That is the biggest crock of shit I have heard in a long time. Giving a bike a ticket for not wearing their helmut on a fucking bike path is retarded.

Climbed this on Saturday and I would not say that the wet spots on the route are a major problem. There are a couple of wet spots but they are not that bad. The first comes in the 5.9 offwidth secton after it eases and the wet area can be climbed around to the left on 5.7 face holds. The wet spots out of the belay are definatly in an area that is run out but is once again located on easy 5.7 ground and only about 6 feet long. One thing all should be aware of is that the huge rock horn that is located on the 5.9 pitch is loose. When I pulled on this the whole block moved.