Alasdair

Has Vantage ever been in good shape? Its a fucking choss pile. Maybe for you bolt clipping pillow bitters. If you don’t like the choss stay in the gym. PS: Stay out of the alpine or take your bottle. You know me so well. Every chance I get I am out clipping bolts. I am such a bolt clipper. That attempt at an insult may have worked if a) I liked clipping bolts and b) If vantage cracks were worth a shit. Any where that you have to clean choss out of a crack prior to putting in gear is a shit hole that should be avoided.

Vantage would be fine if you are the only person there. But for some reason it is a magnet for new climbers fresh out of the gym. This means lots of people with no awarness of loose rock which creates one of the most dangerous places to climb I have ever been to. Vantage on a nice spring weekend day is a death trap.

Has Vantage ever been in good shape? Its a fucking choss pile.

No question about that.

I would suspect that any trip into the snoqualme back country this weekend is a poor idea. Lots of new snow followed by lots of rain. Go for it, but I think this would be a good weekend to drink beer.

Well unless you were going to Banff or climbing one pich of over picked crap on the cooper spur I dont really think it has fucked up any ice climbing.

Slesse

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John ashcroft disclaimer: Of course I was joking in the above post, I would never condone such actions. Such action is irresponsible and disagreements with the govenment should only be made using the court system.

For every dollar you spend on the pass spend an equal amound on unsubsidising the logging companies. Purchase tree spiking supplies for that sensitive salmon habitat that bush is going to open to logging.

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This weather pattern might give us some really great alpine neve conditions in late December. All we need is a couple of cold clear days after is stops raining and we will be set! Fuck Freshies pray for alpine ice!!!!!!

SEWS is not going to be in. With the recent snowfall we have had you will have trouble finding anything that is not burried, and anything that is steep enough to not be burried will likley not be in. YOu may want to have a look around Snoqualmie, but I would guess you are just going to be tramping around in the snow. I think you need to wait a couple more weeks.

From my one experience up there hunter should be done fairly early. If you get a warm spell while you are on one of the ridges you are hosed.

Does anyone have contact info for Leyland Windham? If so could you please PM me with it? Thanks

Is there something particular that makes you think anyone would want to wear a shirt that is based on your personal life?

They are great for kicking cats.

Bullshit. there is almost always one weekend in November with good weather and great neve conditions on at least one peak somewhere. Last weekend hood was in excellent shape, and so was some of the stuff at cascade pass. Last year in November Joffre was in excellent shape. Look around any you will find some of the best climbing of the year in November. So quit your fucking bitching and get out and climb something.

Its not bad, but if you were thinking on going there tomorrow there will be a whole lot of mountain rescue folk up there training.

Jesus Dude you sound like king 5 news! No it does not mean imminent erruption, or really much of anything, other than there was an earthquake. An isolated earthquake such as this one with no further quakes afterward is very normal in a dormant volcano. If there really was any sort of magma movement they would know it, and there would have been a hell of a lot more earthquakes from areas deeper than this. Look back at the data from the 1980 St. hellens erruption, and the erruption of Piatubo. There was months of earthquakes prior to erruption, and in both cases the magma was tracked up by steadily shallower quakes. This set of quakes is more likely due to a lack of any new heat in the system and contracting rocks breaking due to cooling. In otherwords it may signal less activity in the near future.

Nope that is not the artical I am talking about. The artical I am talking about was a very complete study that covered all types of rope damage, and fall senarios. I will see what I can do to dig it up.

There is a study from the BMC that was published a few years ago that says in short "ropes dont break" even when stood on by crampons, and speared with picks. I cant find the artical, but Ade might know where it can be found. I would guess that the small stress put on a rope by driving a crampon through it, does not weaken it as much as tying a knot in it, so the breaking point of the rope is still the knot, but in almost every case your ice pro will fail first.

In late summer when the oregon grape berries are nice and ripe gather a hand full, and on the next little rock step that you encounter knock a small rock down it and yell a bit. Crush the handfull of oregon grapes in your hand and watch your climbing partners shit them selfs for a couple of seconds. Did this a few years ago and it worked very effectivly. Lined a coworkers file cabinet drawer with garbage bags filled with water and gold fish. closed draw and left a can of fish food on his key bored. He was really confused about the fish food until he opened the drawer later that day.

Diesels always have higher particulates than gas engines. I did not try to say that they have lower particulates than gasoline, and if you have a well tuned deisel and a crappy gasoline engine then your statement above is not true. In addition you should not forget that Gasoline is much more refined than deisel fuels, which in effect just places the extra polution at the refinery rather than the tail pipe. I am not trying to say the deisels are the end all be all of green vehicals, the are definatly not, but they do get much better gas milage, and they are not the foul smelling black smoke spewing vehicals they used to be.

Actually newer deisels that are properly maintained have very little particulate emissions.