hey rudy you don't like it when i have something serious to say that rebuts some ridiculous assertion of yours?
i have developed a fair number of routes with mixed gear and bolts and if there is even one place where natural gear will go in I leave that spot for trad gear and not bolts. for 2 reasons 1) because it's cheaper and saves money, 2) because it keeps chicken, wont-place-gear sporto climbers off the routes and ensures that on busy days when the bolt lines are completely full that merely by throwing my rack in the car when I drive to Cheakamus I can have a great day of climbing without waiting in a line. trad is rad. in fact ive lugged a #4 camalot up 30 meters of bolted face just to plug it in at the crux of a route then clipped more bolts above. i think routes like this are better than fully bolted routes and there are many others who do too.