the grand goes free at 13b with a v6 slab move crux. so much for your bogus v17 and probably a lot of other "its unfreeable so i chipped it" lines.
chippers are weak.
wolfgang "found" a climb suited to his style.
fred was the one to "create" climbs suited to his style with those two finger drill holes an arm span apart out a blank roof. l'autre chip du ciel
you dope
ya got ivy on your rope
now you hope
for magic soap
well nope, there is no sope
but don't mope
even the Pope
can't get ivy out of rope
once it's on - its a slippery slope
how will you cope?
try a psychotrope
Peppermint altoids = real peppermint flavour
Other altoids = artifical flavour.
anyways they all suck compared to Fisherman's Friends Original Extra Strong/Tres Fort