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It has come to my attention that some people view this little guy differently than I. I always thought meant you were good-naturedly verbally sparring with some mean sounding language. But the person I was talking to thought was more of a threat, like, "I'll kick your ass if I ever see you in person ". Anyway...what's the implication?

Time to repost this GREAT link seeming to out a Republican troublemaker trying to play the victim.

More attacks on Republican HQ's!!! The Reichstag is BURNING!!!!

Got that right!

Either that, or when Bush says he's made no mistakes other than hiring guys who ended up dissing him, Kerry should reply with something like, "You don't consider 1000 American soldiers dying while at the same time making us more vulnerable to terrorism a mistake!? This president is in a fantasyland ladies and gentlemen. How can you get us out of a mess, if you don't even recognize there is a mess. etc...", instead of the same boring shit he's said three times in the debate already. What a putz! Kerry's already decided to play the Iraq card. No more holding back

Excellent TR Michael! Nice climb

No, I'd say the core is that Bush "disclosed" more than he knew!

Greg_W is not currently banned. (billcoe note correct spelling) He's probably just sick of this place. Or maybe he's just sagging under the burden of the ever more difficult job of justifying the actions of the Bush adminstration

!!! double 70's! Holy cow! I'd suggest double 50's, but we've been through this before. If you're doing alpine climbing where there's a lot of wandering terrain you are going to get ropedrag (doublerope drag here). Obviously you get more drag the further out from the belay you are. A 70m is gonna give you 20 more meters of maximal drag. Also for alpine you will probably be doing non-trivial approaches to the climb. Think of the weight of two 70m ropes. If you are doing stuff steep enough so that you don't get a lot of ropedrag, you might need a lot of gear for those 70m pitches too (more weight). I guess you could compromise and get double 60's. I wouldn't, but then I'm screwed when I come across one of these climbs that requires 60m ropes. Only tip I can think about that may not be obvious, is, if the leader is alternating ropes on the protection then when she come to a clip, the belayer can give her a bunch of slack for the clip beforehand since the clipping rope is not the one leading back to the closest pro. Oh, and get two different color ropes, but you probably already figured that out.

I think Dru's example of the Squamish Butt is right on. It's the exact same situation bumped up a few grades. Say you wanted to have a fun time climbing and wanted to summit. The only part that is in the way is the 10c pitch. You could get by it by rope soloing. Big deal. Not a mistake. Perhaps impractical (carrying all that extra weight along for one pitch does seem to negate a bit of the fun), but if you're a peak-bagger and it's the only way (Squamish Butt analogy breaks down here) then you're gonna have to carry the weight anyway. Nothing wrong with carrying soloing gear along to safely circumnavigate a short spot. It'll be heavier, and maybe take some of the fun out of the rest of the hike, but if you really wanna summit that peak, then that's maybe the price you gotta pay. It's not a mistake just because someone's idea of fun is different than Dru's.

Maybe the Dems got some technogeek to jam his signal and cut him off from his prompter, and that's why he did so poorly last Thursday? I don't see why it's such a big deal though. Why not just have the whole cabinet up there with him while "debating"? It's not like there's ever a time when he has to run the country all by himself anyway. That way we'd at least get it out in the open who we were actually voting for/against.

Only if you're buying Cracked...oh wait a minute, not old enough to buy are ya? Old enough to get drafted though, funny how that works.

Klenke, We already know that you're much more interested in goat-f&*king. If you've got something so much more interesting to say than us, why don't you contribute?

\ Scott, I think a lot of people are just plain pissed that this was the second or third justification used for the war; that is, Bush just flip-flopped around and lied and lied to get his way. Unfortunately, now, in hindsight, we see that the whole endeavour is much messier than those dufus's believed and thousands of young Americans have paid with their lives or body parts. It is still unclear what the true reasons for launching this disastrous exercise were. Please don't tell me you think that George Bush felt he needed to sacrifice American lives and lots of money to help out the Iraqi people. We both know that that is merely the only justification left that has not been debunked. I guess your point is, is that we are all hypocrites because we supported bombing one country in the name of human decency, but did not support invasion of another under the same pretenses. What about you? You seem to be supporting the invasion of Iraq, but not the bombing in the Balkans. Does that make you a hypocrite? Or did you not support the invasion of Iraq?

Source? I found it on AndrewSullivan.com, but not attributed to Kerry. Who is plagiarizing whom? Or is this "quote" just BS?

Good story here (salon.com, gotta watch an ad first, then it's all free) about a guy volunteering for the Dems in PA. describing watching the debate: "The group consensus is that [bush] is a man who should be the president of the local Elks Club. He would be great: Personable, simple and well able to handle the demands of the job, organizing dinners, roasts and the occasional charity drive. Our glee is tempered by the sobering fact that this mean-spirited, incompetent figure, shriveling like the great and powerful Oz, is in fact the most powerful man in the world, and that the debate will have consequences that will affect the entire world."

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001

spilled milk ARE YOU SAYING WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITH SADDAM IN POWER!!!!

In my view, he was transparently attempting to drive a wedge between Bush and homophobe voters. What I don't like is the fact that he brought Cheney's daughter into the mix. I guess you could consider it all fine and proper since I'm sure the homophobe voters find this a very important issue. But even though he's turning the Repub's slimy tactics back on them, it's still slimy. Gotta do what you gotta do though. I think it was excellent strategy, and though completely disingenuous, Edwards pulled it off brilliantly. But it's still nothing I would be proud of, using the other guy's family members against him.

Perhaps not moronic this time, but quite naive. Is this one a "troll" too?

The MODERATOR only tangentially identified her, speaking to Cheney of "[his] family's experience ". Cheney then tiptoed around it with generalities. Edwards specifically highlighted "GAY DAUGHTER". Check out the transcripts

gosh this sure is a fascinating "story"!

Don't forget that you can often make many of the moves easier and safer by using your (bomber) pro as holds. You probably know downclimbing is harder than upclimbing. Bring a rap rope.

Don't get cheap cams. Get the ones you like. 2-3 double slings is heavy and unnecessary. If you need to lengthen a sling on a placement, clip two slings together. If you need to loop a big boulder or something, use your cordelette. If you want to bring rap webbing, buy 20 feet of that lightweight stuff and stick it in your pack (and bring a lightweight knife).

With respect to the gay marriage thing, the Dems are playing hardball there. Obviously, Edwards was basically saying: HEY AMERICA LISTEN UP! CHENEY HAS A GAY DAUGHTER!!!!!!! If it were in a bar, Cheney probably should have punched out Edwards for bringing his daughter into their dispute, or did whatever was possible for a guy with a heart condition; however, in the debates he couldn't act all Bob Dolian crazy, so he just had to suck it up and move on to the next topic. Slimy as fuck, but you gotta believe this will help the dems in homophobeland. BTW this is #6 in SC's list of how the candidates are the same #6. Both candidates have stated that they do not support gay marriage.