mattp Posted January 22, 2003 Author Posted January 22, 2003 Dru- You may be right that I only saw the word "buttnuget" in Cavey's autosig and this may have led me to misinterpreted the exchange. If so, Cavey should consider an autosig that isn't intentionally obnoxious. But what I saw was six or eight posts, I believe all but one contained some kind of rhetorical put-down or at least the assertion that another poster didn't know what the hell they were talking about, and don't think Cavey's autosig was the only graffic nastygram. I concluded that this banter was going to continue and that it was not relevant to a discussion of Big Four or Colonial and could just as easily have been undertaken in another thread, perhaps in the Spray forum. Jon and Tim have been requesting that the route reports threads not fill up with garbage since just about the beginning of this board, and I will try to see if I can help that along in the forums that I moderate. Â The "rules" have not changed and I really don't think there is much that is unclear. The only difference is that Jon has decided to ask that people actually follow them. In the forums that I moderate I will try to my best to do so fairly. Quote
fleblebleb Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 I know! Â We should just have one big happy thread for all the posts! Quote
fern Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 I set my options to not display autosigs or avatar pictures. Probably this is the source of our differing recollections. Quote
fleblebleb Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 I just got moderated by Ade after making one (1) sarcastic post in the ice conditions forum. If I remember correctly I didn't even swear. Anywayz, I suddenly discovered that I have very little tolerance for getting moderated myself, so I have a greater sympathy with Ray than I did before. Â I've got a couple of suggestions - (1) Matt should give Ade some moderation lessons, (2) the moderators should learn to move posts instead of leaving those DELETED BY comments which just wreck the threads, and (3) the rest of us can just post beta in the spray section until things are straightened out. After all, in spray anything goes. Quote
mattp Posted January 22, 2003 Author Posted January 22, 2003 (edited) Fleb- I understand why you or Ray or anybody else might not want to be moderated on. Even though it is obviously personal, try not to take it personally. What I saw in that thread appeared to me as if there was some effort to push the margins a little bit, and I don't remember your post in particular but the general point is lets try to keep spray in the route reports forum to a minimum and, as the sprayer's say all the time: it's the internet and it is really no big deal. If I or Ade or anybody else are not doing a good job, you can complain about it here or send PM's to Jon or whatever, but try not to get too upset. Just because you may be proud of your sarcastic remark of offended that it was removed doesn't seem to me to be grounds for advocating a battle with the management of the site. Edited January 22, 2003 by mattp Quote
allthumbs Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 I think everybody should just let the mods. do their job and quit whining. There's very little moderating going on around here. Give it a rest already. Quote
fleblebleb Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 Alrighty, no beta in spray then.  I guess I wasn't very attached to my post, because I pretty much can't remember what it was about But if I remember correctly then it was intended to convey that posts like the one or two Chepe made don't have any meaningful substance. So in effect I was trying to get the thread not to devolve, which is what I usually do (outside of spray that is). I think Ade probably deleted my post because it made absolutely no sense after Chepe's posts were deleted, which is consistent with the moderation policy.  This policy of cascading deletes is not very good though, because nobody likes to see the DELETED BY comments. The natural reaction is to ask what that stuff could have been, that the reader for some reason needs to be protected from.  I think a better solution is as follows: - Split the thread being moderated o The signal stays in the same place o The noise becomes a new thread in the spray forum - Add a post in the signal thread with a link to the new thread and the screen name of the moderator  The new thread in spray is completely inconsistent but nobody cares because it was just meaningless spray anyway - otherwise it shouldn't be moderated in the first place.  It's possible that UBBThreads don't let threads be split very easily - I don't know because UBBThreads isn't freeware so I have never played with it other than as a participant in this board.  Quote
mattp Posted January 22, 2003 Author Posted January 22, 2003 Fleb- Splitting a thread might be a good solution but (1) I don't know how to do it, and (2) we shouldn't have to. I might see if I Jon can help me try it with that Chair Peak thread, though. Quote
mattp Posted January 22, 2003 Author Posted January 22, 2003 Its OK, Trask. Somebody should tell me to shut up and go back to work, too. Quote
ChrisT Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 (edited) well I thought this *was* your job. You're the attorney retained by cc.com right? Â (oops...grammar) Edited January 22, 2003 by ChrisT Quote
jon Posted January 22, 2003 Posted January 22, 2003 I think everybody should just let the mods. do their job and quit whining. There's very little moderating going on around here. Give it a rest already. Â Please PM link to picture. Quote
Ade Posted January 23, 2003 Posted January 23, 2003 I think Ade probably deleted my post because it made absolutely no sense after Chepe's posts were deleted, which is consistent with the moderation policy. Just for the record that's why I got rid of your post, I actually thought it was quite funny and appreciated your effort, but it made no sense when the posts it refered to where gone. Â Deleteing threaded posts is quite tricky - seems the order you remove them is important or something. Sometimes you get a ..DELETED.. gravestone left behind, sometimes you don't. Quote
fleblebleb Posted January 23, 2003 Posted January 23, 2003 Off the top of my head - I'd guess that if a post that has already been replied to is deleted then the database becomes inconsistent because the replies now refer to a non-existent thread identifier. If this is true then posts should be deleted in the reverse order of posting, but can't be deleted if there is already a reply that should be kept. Â The deletion code might deal with this as a special case that results in DELETED BY. A better solution might be to simply point the zombie replies to the first post in the thread. Â Gee, you'd think I get enough computer stuff elsewhere but apparently not. Â Â Quote
freeclimb9 Posted January 23, 2003 Posted January 23, 2003 Postively no mention of smoking in the Muir hut should be allowed in a "route report" discussions. Ever. Again. Quote
fleblebleb Posted January 26, 2003 Posted January 26, 2003 Hah, I've learned a new trick. Â Next time I want to kill a thread I'll just start talking about computer crap again. Â Bound to work every time. Quote
Dru Posted December 22, 2003 Posted December 22, 2003 what ever happened to Fleblebleb and Colonel von Spanker? Â Is daisy still banned? Â Regarding fern's comments about moderators in this thread its funny she is a mod now Quote
fern Posted December 22, 2003 Posted December 22, 2003 You come across kinda bitchy, Fern.  this is my favourite part  now that I'm a mod I can lay the smackdown on mattp all I want and he can't ban me. Quote
catbirdseat Posted December 22, 2003 Posted December 22, 2003 what ever happened to Fleblebleb and Colonel von Spanker? Â Is daisy still banned? Â Regarding fern's comments about moderators in this thread its funny she is a mod now Try logging in as daisy and let us know. Quote
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