Obama and his Lying Issues

[Fairweather]

"The state site is working fine!" NOT. Geez, you need to wake up, guy.

[rob]

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!!

[Fairweather]

Gotta love these hordes of Democrats who are up for election in 2014 and are now demanding the president make changes to the very same bill they used to support. What a pathetic bunch the Ds are.

[olyclimber]

Gotta love these hordes of Democrats who are up for election in 2014 and are now demanding the president make changes to the very same bill they used to support. What a pathetic bunch the Ds are.

 

How partisan of you, you republican operative, WALKING IN LOCKSTEP WITH YOUR JACKBOOTED REPUBLICAN THUGS!

 

 

[denalidave]

Gotta love these hordes of Democrats who are up for election in 2014 and are now demanding the president make changes to the very same bill they used to support. What a pathetic bunch the Ds are.

Gotta love when one party bashes the other, yet they have such a narrow and myopic view that they are not willing to look at how f'd up there "own" party is. The R's have really alienated all but the stupidestestesstes and/or stubornestestes of the voting populations. Not that I'm a big fan of the D's either but the party of no, hate and vitriol are pretty much a laughing stock to "most" of us here in reality. Trying to hang on to what whitey has left as it slips through there greedy, power hungry fingers...

[Fairweather]

Gotta love these hordes of Democrats who are up for election in 2014 and are now demanding the president make changes to the very same bill they used to support. What a pathetic bunch the Ds are.

Gotta love when one party bashes the other, yet they have such a narrow and myopic view that they are not willing to look at how f'd up there "own" party is. The R's have really alienated all but the stupidestestesstes and/or stubornestestes of the voting populations. Not that I'm a big fan of the D's either but the party of no, hate and vitriol are pretty much a laughing stock to "most" of us here in reality. Trying to hang on to what whitey has left as it slips through there greedy, power hungry fingers...

 

Lemme guess, you're fresh outta school? I think you missed a few of the caricatures that you were taught, but you did include the requisite "not that I'm a big fan of those Democrats, but..." Still, it's pretty clear you're among the young, entitled, and willing dupes that the Democrat party absolutely craves.

 

BTW: it's spelled t-h-e-i-r. Are you sure you're not one of them stupidestestesstes Republicans?

Edited November 13, 2013 by Fairweather

[rob]

yeah, WAKE UP, GUY!!!!

[olyclimber]

ITS OBVIOUS YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF INDEPENDENT THOUGHT AND INSTEAD TAKE YOUR MARCHING ORDERS DIRECTLY FROM TEATARD HEAD QUARTERS!

[rob]

[denalidave]

Gotta love these hordes of Democrats who are up for election in 2014 and are now demanding the president make changes to the very same bill they used to support. What a pathetic bunch the Ds are.

Gotta love when one party bashes the other, yet they have such a narrow and myopic view that they are not willing to look at how f'd up there "own" party is. The R's have really alienated all but the stupidestestesstes and/or stubornestestes of the voting populations. Not that I'm a big fan of the D's either but the party of no, hate and vitriol are pretty much a laughing stock to "most" of us here in reality. Trying to hang on to what whitey has left as it slips through there greedy, power hungry fingers...

 

Lemme guess, you're fresh outta school? I think you missed a few of the caricatures that you were taught, but you did include the requisite "not that I'm a big fan of those Democrats, but..." Still, it's pretty clear you're among the young, entitled, and willing dupes that the Democrat party absolutely craves.

 

BTW: it's spelled t-h-e-i-r. Are you sure you're not one of them stupidestestesstes Republicans?

Correct, it is their up there. My bad. Thanks Spell Nazi. I usually go do the sneak edit as I'm also a bit OCD. I'm still fighting the urge to fix it now but I don't want to further confuse anything.

 

I'm convinced both parties, lie, cheat, steal and then whine (or is that wine?) about it when the other party does it. Young and out of school, that is funny. Prolly am one of the stupendestestes of the stupidesteses, but at least I'm honest and willing to admit when I'm wrong, stupid, selfish and arrogant. Usually all at the same time. Why can't all you die hard, aka, extremists on both sides call a spade a spade when you see it in your "own" party? Why can't all you folks just lighten up a bit or at least admit your party does the same as the "other" party? Do you really believe all the crap the R's try to shove down our throats?

[ivan]

Lemme guess, you're fresh outta school? I think you missed a few of the caricatures that you were taught, but you did include the requisite "not that I'm a big fan of those Democrats, but..." Still, it's pretty clear you're among the young, entitled, and willing dupes that the Democrat party absolutely craves.

 

BTW: it's spelled t-h-e-i-r. Are you sure you're not one of them stupidestestesstes Republicans?

you weren't even close enough for handgrenades or nuclear bombs to count

[ivan]

do you have to be fresh out the hizzy to note the irony of a conservative appealing to the libturd masses to Respect Da Wisdom of billy clinton?

 

ironic too i suppose that obama internalized the lessons of clinton's debacle at creating universal healthcare and thus gave the conservatives damn near everything they wanted in a "reformed" healthcare system that they then turned around and spurned...

[Fairweather]

Correct, it is their up there. My bad. Thanks Spell Nazi. I usually go do the sneak edit as I'm also a bit OCD. I'm still fighting the urge to fix it now but I don't want to further confuse anything.

 

I'm convinced both parties, lie, cheat, steal and then whine (or is that wine?) about it when the other party does it. Young and out of school, that is funny. Prolly am one of the stupendestestes of the stupidesteses, but at least I'm honest and willing to admit when I'm wrong, stupid, selfish and arrogant. Usually all at the same time. Why can't all you die hard, aka, extremists on both sides call a spade a spade when you see it in your "own" party? Why can't all you folks just lighten up a bit or at least admit your party does the same as the "other" party? Do you really believe all the crap the R's try to shove down our throats?

 

I think you haven't read (or didn't care to respond to) my posts on the government shutdown. Still, I do think it's funny how calls from the left for civility and balance only appear when their party is fucking things up. The party of "no"? Hell, when Christie is elected in 2016--and the Dems control one or both chambers of Congress--we'll see who the party of no is. And all these calls for decorum around here will be a thing of the past.

 

And FWIW, at the risk of falling into the same cliche I accused you of tossing out, I will say I don't really care for the Republican Party--particularly certain parts of their social agenda. Rather, I have utter contempt for Democrats and their idiotic solutions to complex problems. With few exceptions, they strike me as populists offering to extinguish the very fires they helped to start. I'll ask you the same thing you asked me: Do you really believe all the crap the Democrat party tries to shove down our throats?

Edited November 13, 2013 by Fairweather

[Fairweather]

ironic too i suppose that obama internalized the lessons of clinton's debacle at creating universal healthcare and thus gave the conservatives damn near everything they wanted in a "reformed" healthcare system that they then turned around and spurned...

 

Dude, that's about as revisionist as the Zinn bullshit you're teaching your pupils. You can't be serious.

[denalidave]

Correct, it is their up there. My bad. Thanks Spell Nazi. I usually go do the sneak edit as I'm also a bit OCD. I'm still fighting the urge to fix it now but I don't want to further confuse anything.

 

I'm convinced both parties, lie, cheat, steal and then whine (or is that wine?) about it when the other party does it. Young and out of school, that is funny. Prolly am one of the stupendestestes of the stupidesteses, but at least I'm honest and willing to admit when I'm wrong, stupid, selfish and arrogant. Usually all at the same time. Why can't all you die hard, aka, extremists on both sides call a spade a spade when you see it in your "own" party? Why can't all you folks just lighten up a bit or at least admit your party does the same as the "other" party? Do you really believe all the crap the R's try to shove down our throats?

 

I think you haven't read (or didn't care to respond to) my posts on the government shutdown. Still, I do think it's funny how calls from the left for civility and balance only appear when their party is fucking things up. The party of "no"? Hell, when Christie is elected in 2016--and the Dems control one or both chambers of Congress--we'll see who the party of no is. And all these calls for decorum around here will be a thing of the past.

 

And FWIW, at the risk of falling into the same cliche I accused you of tossing out, I will say I don't really care for the Republican Party--particularly certain parts of their social agenda. Rather, I have utter contempt for Democrats and their idiotic solutions to complex problems. With few exceptions, they strike me as populists offering to extinguish the very fires they helped to start. I'll ask you the same thing you asked me: Do you really believe all the crap the Democrat party tries to shove down our throats?

Nope, I don't buy the BS either side spews out. I consider myself an independent voter. Our current two party system is corrupt and driven primarily by corporate interest & money (IMO)...

[rob]

YOURE JUST ANOTHER OBAMA MINION LOL!!

[ivan]

ironic too i suppose that obama internalized the lessons of clinton's debacle at creating universal healthcare and thus gave the conservatives damn near everything they wanted in a "reformed" healthcare system that they then turned around and spurned...

 

Dude, that's about as revisionist as the Zinn bullshit you're teaching your pupils. You can't be serious.

compare and contrast the '93 and '09 democratic healthcare reform initiatives - i'll take a venn diagram if you don't feel like writing the essay

[Crux]

At the intersection of Zinn bullshit and Venn diagram, revise Left, and occupy this!

[Fairweather]

I guess you can come out of the closet now, eh?

 

On one hand, I think it's pretty sad that Seattlites are willing to grab their ankles for government like this. On the other hand, I think it's refreshing that a lefty actually had the courage to run on a platform she believes in. (As opposed to a lot of socialist "Democrats" who say one thing to get elected and then something else once they're in office.)

[Fairweather]

ironic too i suppose that obama internalized the lessons of clinton's debacle at creating universal healthcare and thus gave the conservatives damn near everything they wanted in a "reformed" healthcare system that they then turned around and spurned...

 

Dude, that's about as revisionist as the Zinn bullshit you're teaching your pupils. You can't be serious.

compare and contrast the '93 and '09 democratic healthcare reform initiatives - i'll take a venn diagram if you don't feel like writing the essay

 

Feel free; you're the one making the claim. I'm still waiting for you to reveal the details of your earlier claim that Republicans told Southerners they could keep their slaves.

[slab_master]

Feel free; you're the one making the claim. I'm still waiting for you to reveal the details of your earlier claim that Republicans told Southerners they could keep their slaves.

 

i'm still waiting for you to reveal what jimmy did wrong on the economy.

[ivan]

I'm still waiting for you to reveal the details of your earlier claim that Republicans told Southerners they could keep their slaves.

seems remarkable a man w/ a taste for history would need the details, but okay

 

from part of wikipedia's page on lincoln's first inaugural address:

 

Lincoln opened his speech by first indicating that he would not touch on "those matters of administration about which there is no special anxiety or excitement." The remainder of the speech would address the concerns of Southerners, who were apprehensive that "by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered." Lincoln emphatically denied this assertion, and invited his listeners to consider his past speeches on the subject of slavery, together with the platform adopted by the Republican Party, which explicitly guaranteed the right of each individual state to decide for itself on the subject of slavery, together with the right of each state to be free from coercion of any kind from other states, or the Federal government. He went on to address several other points of particular interest at the time:

 

1.Slavery: Lincoln stated emphatically that he had "...no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."

 

5.Protection of slavery: Lincoln explicitly stated that he had no objection to the proposed Corwin Amendment to the Constitution, which had already been approved by both houses of the United States Congress. This amendment would have formally protected slavery in those states in which it already existed, and assured to each state the right to establish or repudiate it. Lincoln indicated that he thought that this right was already protected in the original Constitution, and thus that the Corwin Amendment merely reiterated what it already contained.

 

6.Slavery in the Territories: Lincoln asserted that nothing in the Constitution expressly said what either could or could not be done regarding slavery in the territories. He indicated his willingness to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act, so long as free blacks could be protected from being kidnapped and illegally sold into slavery through its misuse.

 

 

[Off_White]

Oh sure Ivan, use a liberal source like Wikipedia! You won't find that kind of smokescreen blabber on reputable sources like Fox or the Drudge Report!

[rob]

damn intellectual elite and their book learnin'

[glassgowkiss]

A lot of insurances being cancelled on people are completely pointless, as they do not cover things like medications, plus a lot of them still don't have out of pocket limits. I a lot of cases people would be better off without any insurance. Imagine a patient is diagnosed with cancer. A simple weekly infusion will run you 3-5K, and if your plan doesn't cover medications, who can afford 20K running tab?