26 dead in Connecticut elementary school

[yellowlab03]

It would be like chaos, the only reason I'm not being killed in my sleep right now is because all the bad guys are scared I might have a gun. USA! USA!

 

You'd be surprised at how true that statement might be. Look at what the Justice Dep't had to say about the '94 AWB. The '94 AWB expired in 2004 and since then violent crime has dropped.

 

And I agree that tobacco and obesity kills way more and costs the normal tax payer way more.

[kevbone]

19 pages of the same thing. Good god.

[ivan]

19 pages of the same thing. Good god.

still not the same fucking monstrosity as the kitty-thread though

[KaskadskyjKozak]

19 pages of the same thing. Good god.

 

Dave or Sam?

[rob]

handguns account for the vast majority of gun homicides.

 

But do revolvers? I mean as opposed to say, a semi-automatic Glock?

 

It would be nice to know, but in 1996 Republicans in congress successfully removed the budget line item that used to pay for exactly this kind of federal research, and then passed legislation blocking it from returning. You can thank then-Congressman Jay Dickey and the NRA for that.

 

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1487470

 

Injury prevention research can have real and lasting effects. Over the last 20 years, the number of Americans dying in motor vehicle crashes has decreased by 31%.1 Deaths from fires and drowning have been reduced even more, by 38% and 52%, respectively. This progress was achieved without banning automobiles, swimming pools, or matches. Instead, it came from translating research findings into effective interventions.

 

Given the chance, could researchers achieve similar progress with firearm violence? It will not be possible to find out unless Congress rescinds its moratorium on firearm injury prevention research. Since Congress took this action in 1997, at least 427 000 people have died of gunshot wounds in the United States, including more than 165 000 who were victims of homicide. To put these numbers in context, during the same time period, 4586 Americans lost their lives in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Edited January 11, 2013 by rob

[KaskadskyjKozak]

handguns account for the vast majority of gun homicides.

 

But do revolvers? I mean as opposed to say, a semi-automatic Glock?

 

It would be nice to know, but in 1996 Republicans in congress successfully removed the budget line item that used to pay for exactly this kind of federal research, and then passed legislation blocking it from returning. You can thank then-Congressman Jay Dickey and the NRA for that.

 

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1487470

 

Injury prevention research can have real and lasting effects. Over the last 20 years, the number of Americans dying in motor vehicle crashes has decreased by 31%.1 Deaths from fires and drowning have been reduced even more, by 38% and 52%, respectively. This progress was achieved without banning automobiles, swimming pools, or matches. Instead, it came from translating research findings into effective interventions.

 

Given the chance, could researchers achieve similar progress with firearm violence? It will not be possible to find out unless Congress rescinds its moratorium on firearm injury prevention research. Since Congress took this action in 1997, at least 427 000 people have died of gunshot wounds in the United States, including more than 165 000 who were victims of homicide. To put these numbers in context, during the same time period, 4586 Americans lost their lives in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

I guess it is all moot anyways as a large number of guns-rights people are of the boner's mentality that the 2nd amendment is not about self-defense or hunting but arming yourself against the gubmint

 

[rob]

I guess it is all moot anyways as a large number of guns-rights people are of the boner's mentality that the 2nd amendment is not about self-defense or hunting but arming yourself against the gubmint

 

 

It's all moot 'cause nothing that's ever worked anywhere else will ever work here -- we're too different.

[KaskadskyjKozak]

I guess it is all moot anyways as a large number of guns-rights people are of the boner's mentality that the 2nd amendment is not about self-defense or hunting but arming yourself against the gubmint

 

 

It's all moot 'cause nothing that's ever worked anywhere else will ever work here -- we're too different.

 

if only half the gun nuts put so much energy into losing 40 lbs or learning something to improve themselves.

 

just sayin'

[Choada_Boy]

I just learned that this is really all about Agenda 21. Look into it find the truth. I'd say more here now, but these are dangerous times. Trust no one. Except these guys:

 

[video:youtube]

 

[rob]

[kevbone]

19 pages of the same thing. Good god.

 

Dave or Sam?

 

I was just listening to both of the this morning. I listened to the new album then on to 5150. Both killer.....

[KaskadskyjKozak]

 

Wait, again, another story of successful self-defense with a gun by a law-abiding citizen. Must be a fabrication - never happens!!

 

 

[rob]

Wait, again, another story of successful self-defense with a gun by a law-abiding citizen. Must be a fabrication - never happens!!

 

 

Seems like nearly everyone on this thread has conceded the rights of responsible, vetted citizens to own small firearms for the purpose of home defense?

[tvashtarkatena]

dancin' wit my-se-elf,

oh, oh oh

 

Speaking of dancing, the pow was incre-eeeb this weekend

[KaskadskyjKozak]

Seems like nearly everyone on this thread has conceded the rights of responsible, vetted citizens to own small firearms for the purpose of home defense?

 

Not everyone.

[tvashtarkatena]

FIND THE TRAITOR!!!!

[tvashtarkatena]

FIRE HIM!!!!!

[tvashtarkatena]

THE PEACEFUL MUST SUFFER.

[rob]

I need a military-grade weapon with a high-capacity magazine and no background checks, it's the only way I'll ever be safe.

 

 

[tvashtarkatena]

FROM OUR COLD, DEAD, CHILDREN'S BLOOD SOAKED HANDS.

[tvashtarkatena]

A rapier wit and a pair of running shoes are the only two weapons I'll ever need.

[rob]

It's pretty awesome that Ron Paul has voted to remove background checks and waiting periods. GO RON PAUL!

[KaskadskyjKozak]

Right on all points

[tvashtarkatena]

GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, IDEAS DO. WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE BANNED. THE FOUNDING FATHERS NEVER MEANT FOR "MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN" TO BE ON DEMAND. I'M PLANNING ON FILLING UP A SUBWAY CAR WITH HUMAN BLOOD AT MY EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY. AS SOON AS THEY BUILD ONE HERE, MAYBE.

[tvashtarkatena]

SAM PEKINPAH, WHY ARE YOU TOO DEAD TO PUNISH FOR NEWTOWN ALREADY?