tvashtarkatena Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) Raised catholic. Used to b a brand of christianity before the born agains staged a hostile takeover of the franchise. Now ebbybody gonna burn except d nutterz. Ive got home court advantage mfkrz. DOUBLE AGENT. Edited October 21, 2012 by tvashtarkatena Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Theres a reason why kristians also believe the USA is the greatest nation on earth, the End is Nigh, and guns make us free. The fuckers just BELIEVE shit. They dont bother to check under the hood. Quote
ivan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 religious debates! even more tedious n' dismal than bolting debates i saw jesus once. got fingerprinted next to him n' everything Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Perhaps, but i save a lot of time by cutting and pasting from the previous 10 times ive beat this glue horse to death. Quote
rob Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I've been close to death only a few times (hey, I'm young) but those are the times that solidified my atheism. There's nothing out there, we're fucking alone. it's better to just accept that. Life after death? Sounds awful. This one is bad enough Quote
ivan Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 speaking of atheists, i like walt whitman: "and to die is far different than what anyone ever supposed, and luckier" Quote
denalidave Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I had religion shoved down my throat growing up too (like most everyone in one shape or form, I suppose). But that has no bearing on the fact that GOD is alive in my life. Lets all bow to almighty trashie so he can convince the power of God to stop influencing me and my world. Anyone that really knows me well will have a hard time arguing against the reality that I certainly would not be alive if God did not intervened over and over again, and nauseam. Call me a pussy, call me someone who needs a crutch. Call me respectful of a power greater than my own hunamity. Good on Joe Simpson for his personal convictions in his own personal life. Just don't think for a moment that your denial of God's existence in my life will deter God's presence or my reliance to trust in whatever will be, will be. Sometimes much easier said than done, of course. Be careful, God might reach out and grab you when you least expect it. Then again, as human beings, we can always reject the supreme and rely on our mechanisms. Isn't that the beauty of it??? Meantime, I'm glad I can always fall back on Traskothisism when my prescription of fukitol runs out. Trank you almighty trashie, trank you berry much. (insert bowing in magnanimous homage) Quote
denalidave Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I sure showed what god was all about on the dance floor tonight... Quote
denalidave Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I suppose it's like trying to explain what it is like to be hit by lightning... One can tell all the stories, show pictures, relay facts upon facts, but unless you get hit by lightning, you will never know what it is like. Perhaps? Quote
denalidave Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I suppose it's like trying to explain what it is like to be hit by lightning... One can tell all the stories, show pictures, relay facts upon facts, but unless you get hit by lightning, you will never know what it is like. Perhaps? But since it has not happened to you, lightning strikes don't exist. Carry on. Nothing to see here, it's all smoke and mirrors. Quote
denalidave Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 New topic. What about the power of prayer??? Quote
denalidave Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 How about the Grateful Dead. I'm sorry, I just don't get it. Even if I was dead, I'm not sure I'd be grateful about it. Just sayin. Damn hippies. I'd rather be ALIVE! Quote
denalidave Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 One doesn't have to know all that is out there to know what isn't. Atheism requires no faith whatsoever. I call Bullshite. How can one say it takes no "faith", yet have no scientific proof (can't proof a negative)? I'm sure in your case, your right. because your mind is not open beyond your own ego (based on your persona here). You have FAITH that you are right and everyone else that believes in God is a sucker (paraphrasing). Call a spade a spade. Atheism takes believing in something you can't proof (faith by definition). Quote
denalidave Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 OK, I'm converted, trastised in the blood of spray, repentent sprayer and will now adhere to atheism because Joe Simpson climbed a mountain, fell off and never asked for God's help. DONE. THERE IS NO GOD. PERIOD. Maybe God helps people even when they deny it? Maybe God was with Joe down deep in the cold, dark crevasse? Certainly his mind was gone bonkers and susceptible to hallucinations. Just because not everyone in fox holes does not believe in God, does not eliminate the possibility of a God existing. Quote
denalidave Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Hallatraskuala! I've finally seen the light. Or darkness, depending on your point of view. Thank you almighty trashie for delightening me beyond my own stupendessness. Quote
genepires Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 One doesn't have to know all that is out there to know what isn't. Atheism requires no faith whatsoever. I call Bullshite. How can one say it takes no "faith", yet have no scientific proof (can't proof a negative)? I'm sure in your case, your right. because your mind is not open beyond your own ego (based on your persona here). You have FAITH that you are right and everyone else that believes in God is a sucker (paraphrasing). Call a spade a spade. Atheism takes believing in something you can't proof (faith by definition). "faith" is the belief in god or teachings of a religion. Since atheism don't believe in god, there is no "faith". Faith is also believing in something without proof. Atheism is about needing proof to believe the existence in god. Since none exists (short afterlife experiences and feelings about the nature of the world are not proof), we have atheism and so atheism is not faith based. belief in god requires faith because there is no evidence belief in science requires no faith. Science believes in only things that can be proved. The day that a bigfoot is put in a cage or a skeleton found, science will believe in bigfoot. A simple visit from the almighty would be enough evidence too but are we not worthy enough a occasional sleep over from Daddy? Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Hmmm Where have i heard the cant prove a negative argument before? Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) Anyhoo, back to the OPs post; Mall Man was actually acting rationally in context. If youre a loon, would you rather stand on a strreet corner a scream about the coming alien apocalypse, or stand in a mall and scream about End Times and be applauded by millions of your fellows for getting The Truth out to the Unsaved? Drive thru crazy is a lot less work than home cooked, too. Mall Mans just doing things the American way. Edited October 21, 2012 by tvashtarkatena Quote
Drederek Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I have faith that God exists. I have no faith that any religion knows what the hell God wants. That includes irrational people spewing nonsense at the mall, christians, buddhists, whatever. Or the group whose leader went out into the woods and ate some mushrooms. And decided God told him he should sleep with lots of women and collect 10% from all his followers. The fact is that people will lie to get what they want. And religions are the perfect lie, if you dun believe (the lies) you're going to hell or unenlightened or just not worthy of the leaders sperm. Quote
rob Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I have faith that the tooth fairy is real, so he must be. That's how faith works. It's awesome cause it makes people believe stuff for no reason. Like republicans and trickle down economics. Quote
rob Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 One time I had faith a girl really, really liked me. I was certain (you know, because faith). Turns out, she didn't. There's faith for you. Quote
matt_warfield Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I prayed for a beer stronger than Budweiser and PBR and here we have Stone IPA Ruination (7.7% alcohol and 100 International Bitterness Units) for the rich and Stone Reserve (8.1% alcohol) for the poor. Somebody answered my prayers. Quote
denalidave Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I prayed for a beer stronger than Budweiser and PBR and here we have Stone IPA Ruination (7.7% alcohol and 100 International Bitterness Units) for the rich and Stone Reserve (8.1% alcohol) for the poor. Somebody answered my prayers. God is great and beer is PROOF God loves us. Quote
denalidave Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 One doesn't have to know all that is out there to know what isn't. Atheism requires no faith whatsoever. I call Bullshite. How can one say it takes no "faith", yet have no scientific proof (can't proof a negative)? I'm sure in your case, your right. because your mind is not open beyond your own ego (based on your persona here). You have FAITH that you are right and everyone else that believes in God is a sucker (paraphrasing). Call a spade a spade. Atheism takes believing in something you can't proof (faith by definition). "faith" is the belief in god or teachings of a religion. Since atheism don't believe in god, there is no "faith". Faith is also believing in something without proof. Atheism is about needing proof to believe the existence in god. Since none exists (short afterlife experiences and feelings about the nature of the world are not proof), we have atheism and so atheism is not faith based. belief in god requires faith because there is no evidence belief in science requires no faith. Science believes in only things that can be proved. The day that a bigfoot is put in a cage or a skeleton found, science will believe in bigfoot. A simple visit from the almighty would be enough evidence too but are we not worthy enough a occasional sleep over from Daddy? You can parse words but you are still assuming something to be true when it can't be verified. Call it faith or non-faith but it still requires a belief, even if that believe is in nothing. It is the non-faith religion for the non religious. Quote
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