duckfeet Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) I've been looking for a new leader pack. I've had the Flash 18 and its been ok, but the opening is too tight and the inner pockets are kind of a pain. I've been able to use my wife's older Cierzo 18 and it has been awesome. Its actually been so awesome that Arcteryx had to do their normal thing of making something great then "updating" it into something not so great. I haven't personally had my hands on this new version but why add another zipper and take away the shoulder padding? Does this help, not really... Anyone used this new version and have an opinion? Does it have a sternum strap? Hows the zipper/drawcord combo work? I like Cilo's 30L a lot, but after playing with the 20L it seems much smaller than both the Flash and the Cierzo. Anyone used one? Edited May 12, 2011 by duckfeet Quote
Wallstein Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 Patagonia makes a pretty sweet 26L pack. I have the current version but have only got to use it a little. I've used the previous version while climbing down in patagonia a few times and liked it. here's a link: http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/patagonia-lightweight-travel-pack?p=48817-0-247&pcc=1128 I've been thinking about cutting off the lid, as the pack is plenty big enough for a leaders pack and it doesn't rest well unless the pack is full. Quote
John Frieh Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 I have the new cierzo 18 and love it. And at a price I won't have second thoughts about hammering it. If you can still fine one the old grivel Manu's are great also. Quote
xhen Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 Patagonia makes a pretty sweet 26L pack. I have the current version but have only got to use it a little. I've used the previous version while climbing down in patagonia a few times and liked it. here's a link: http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/patagonia-lightweight-travel-pack?p=48817-0-247&pcc=1128 I've been thinking about cutting off the lid, as the pack is plenty big enough for a leaders pack and it doesn't rest well unless the pack is full. +1. I have the Flash and it's ok, but last time I was out, my trad partner whipped this sucker out (it folds down into a small pouch in itself) and put me to shame. He got it at Second Ascent for a descent price. Quote
bearbreeder Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 new cierzo 25 ... im not the biggest fan of dead bird ... but this pack is making me happy the last few climbs since i got it ... only used on rock so far though i bought it at mec so if it dies like a dead bird ... ill just swap it out MEC also makes a nice cheap pack for 20 something dollahs Quote
brad.hagen Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 This is the one I'm looking at. I like the fact that it has 2 ice axe loops for ice climbing, and only 310 grams, 26 liters, and seems to double as a compression stuff sack: http://www.rei.com/product/810835/the-north-face-verto-26-pack Brad. Quote
duckfeet Posted May 13, 2011 Author Posted May 13, 2011 I considered the verto 26 but 26L is pretty big for a basic leaders pack. I've got a 30L pack that fits that spot. I've seen an older version of the patagonia that didn't seem too large, its probably worth checking out. I'd be curious to hear about any additional experience with the new cierzo 18. Quote
BigSky Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 If you can find a Golite Ion it's a great leader pack for me. Quote
Le Piston Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 It may be bigger than you want, but I have really liked my Deuter Pace 30. It's very lightweight, handles two axes, and has external pockets on both sides for stowing pickets, poles, or whatever. Quote
wdietsch Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 This number may also do the trick. At $26 it's pretty much disposable. MEC Travel Light Top Loader Quote
robpatterson5 Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 I'm kinda shocked how large the leaders packs everyone is suggesting is -- my vote would be the BD Bullet, burly for rock+not too large at 18L. I can fit everything for a day of ice in it, the 2ed can carry their own stuff in another or carries a 30L Other then for alpine I think the Bullet is perfect. For an Alpine daypack the MEC Gennie is my vote at 30L. Quote
EastCoastBastard Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 I've got both the MEC travel light as a leader's pack and multiple generations of the genie for a daypack/light climbing pack. Both work well, are reasonably durable for what they are and are relatively inexpensive. pretty pleased with both. Quote
wdietsch Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 -- my vote would be the BD Bullet, burly for rock+not too large at 18L. I have a old version of the Bullet. Definitely bombproof and haul-able if needed. I had two lash points sew on to carry an axe/tool works pretty good. My only complaints .. mine is 16L, a bit too small for me, and the shoulder straps are too close together behind my neck. Quote
backclipped Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 I just picked up the Petzl Bug. I haven't had the opportunity to put it to the test yet, but at first glance I reckon I'm going to be quite satisfied. Has anyone actually been up any routes with this thing on his/her back? Quote
iceaxe23 Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 This is the one I'm looking at. I like the fact that it has 2 ice axe loops for ice climbing, and only 310 grams, 26 liters, and seems to double as a compression stuff sack: http://www.rei.com/product/810835/the-north-face-verto-26-pack Brad. I have that one and it doubles as a stuff sack too and I have an old jansport "summit pack" that is very similar I really like the MEC one though as it has the foam pad in it. Quote
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