IPCC: 80% renewables is possible within 40 years

[Wastral]

Yo ignorant moron TAV. Its Iron for the towers dumb ass. Iron is not rare at all. The problem is instances where it is concentrated making it economical to actually mine it.

 

So according to ignorant TAV he believes a goal piece by a bunch of PR politician wannabies have a energy storage source to get to their 80% goal. Did you even read the article? Guess not. What a chump. If this was true, then it would have been written on the FRONT PAGE of every engineering journal and every magazine across the world and there would be umpteen multipage articles in every renewable energy magazine across the world and the electric car folks would be doing hand stands and jumping jacks.

 

TaV, if you knew even 1 thing about engineering, I could properly slam your ignorance, but you are so ignorant I can't even sneer properly in your direction as you wouldn't have a clue what the first word meant in reality.

 

For instance you believe intermittent wind power can be sent thousands of miles across the country by waving a magic wand. Europe who has been pushing wind for FAR longer hasn't figured it out yet and their power source is VERY close to their populations centers. For all intensive purposes, the east coast and south east have NO wind power resources. Would have to come from the Dakotas. Just gotta buy a few trillion worth of land rights to run a few gazillion miles of new lines down. The dessert rat was an example of how stupid environmental wackos are. Won't even allow 'sustainable power' sources across desert and force folks to go through the courts when all one needs is the land rights. See above why this is a near impossibility.

 

TAV do yourself a favor, I like how you go around calling everyone a teabagger moron without even knowing their political party. So, everyone who points out reality is a teabagger idiot? Must mean you are an idiot it seems.

 

Then again you believe that you can keep printing money forever without any consequences. Brilliant! Devalue the dollar so we get to run around with wheelbarrows of cash to buy a loaf of bread. Brilliant strategy dude. That is a real bread winning idea there. That way we can just devalue the debt we keep accruing and pretend like everything is rosy. Brilliant! Of course everyone will suddenly STOP buying US treasury BONDS. What a dumb ass. Keep burying your head up your ass. Take a sniff, don't light a match it might blow your head out your ass and you might sniff a bit of clean air and reality.

[genepires]

somebody give wastral some pot. he is way to tense.

[AlpineK]

Wastral could have reduced his long rant to:

 

TAV, I'm talking to you. Fuck you you fucking fuck!

[tvashtarkatena]

FUCK ALL OF YOU.

 

It's BCSKI TIME.

 

IRON SHORTAGE is the new global warming....

 

Start stockpiling yer soupcanz, bitches! They're gonna be worth somethin' someday!

Edited May 18, 2011 by tvashtarkatena

[rob]

YOu guys are all dumb. If we build too many windfarms, we'll suck all of the energy out of our meteorologic system and cause worldwide climate change!!!!!!1111 You can't get electricity for free you tea bagger idiots!!! And if you build too much solar, we'll wear out the sun!!!!!

 

 

I Personally Believe We Should Build One Coal Plant For Every Wind Farm. If You Disagree With Me You Are An Idiot because I know about engineering and you don't!!!!

 

Desert Rat!!!

[rob]

I'm telling you, we will STOP THE WIND.

 

 

 

Also, Desert Rat!

[tvashtarkatena]

I can tell you're not an engineer: It's DESSERT rat.

[ivan]

you boys could teach a class in taunting lunatics - of course you'd likely be killed and eaten by canibals before completing the course though

[G-spotter]

PNW is >80% renewable due to hydro already. Need to scale that up to add the vehicle fleet though.

[rob]

Yeah, I agree, the northwest does indeed seem to be about 80% hydro.

[murraysovereign]

Yeah, I agree, the northwest does indeed seem to be about 80% hydro.

 

...which means wind power makes more sense here than a lot of other places. All those water reservoirs act as pretty good storage batteries - when the wind is blowing you can use the resulting power to run things, and retain the water that otherwise would have been discharged through the turbines, so the generating capacity of that water is still available when the wind dies down. They're both quick-on / quick-off power sources that complement one another quite well.

 

Trick is to find similar similarly complementary pairs of power sources for those areas that don't have access to hydro - no mean feat for some places.

[rob]

I feel sorry for communities that don't have access to good hydro.

[G-spotter]

I see what you did there

[Wastral]

What I can't stand is folks like you name calling and shouting your ignorance to the whole world giving the rest of us environmentalists(me and others) a bum rap by lumping us in with your baffoonery ignorance.

 

Do try 7th grade math occasionally. Apply said math skills to how much Steel(tons) AKA Iron is needed just for the towers of said windmills to come even close to meeting 50% of our(USA's energy) needs assuming 0 transmission loss and an absurd 30% run time on said windmills at full nameplate installed power conversion. Both of the last two never happen in conjunction with eachother. That doesn't even count the amount of steel for the bases to hold said towers to the ground. Now do a very simple look up of how much iron ore is mined every year. 7th grade math maybe Tvas et al can use a calculator. Somehow I doubt it as calculators don't have enough profanity buttons on them.

 

Yes, if you count Hydro, then the NW is basically already self sustaining except at the end of the summer/fall when the reservoirs are running low. We aren't talking small pockets of the world like the gifted NW is for natural resources. Addressing 5 Million in a world of 6 Billion is not exactly germaine to the discussion at hand. Hell, BC could easily be self sustaining as well if they damned up their rivers which they have not done so far. They are planning several very large run of the river installations especially at the head of Bute/Knight inlet for Vancouver Island. Does making getting into that region much easier if they do so.

[G-spotter]

Do try 7th grade math occasionally. Apply said math skills to how much Steel(tons) AKA Iron is needed just for the towers of said windmills to come even close to meeting 50% of our(USA's energy) needs assuming 0 transmission loss and an absurd 30% run time on said windmills at full nameplate installed power conversion. Both of the last two never happen in conjunction with eachother. That doesn't even count the amount of steel for the bases to hold said towers to the ground. Now do a very simple look up of how much iron ore is mined every year.

 

The amount mined every year has very little to do with the availability because >75% of the iron consumed every year is recycled from scrap.

[E-rock]

Wastral,

Instead of writing out a word problem, you could have just written an equation.

 

Duh.

 

Or are you just shouting people down along with j_bot?

 

 

Edited May 18, 2011 by E-rock

[E-rock]

 

you need to learn what ad-hom means. It's not equivalent to "insult". As a matter of fact, calling a "blowhard" someone who ignored all the evidence presented to spew the same old unsupported garbage despite a panel of experts saying exactly the opposite, may be insulting but it isn't ad-hom.

 

Devastating in its intellectual superiority. Now let me inform you of something, your little "is your ass sore" joke has always been an allusion to anal sex, as far back as it has existed. It has nothing to do with an "ass-kicking". Did it make you feel all icky inside to know you might have been slightly homophobic today? Ewww, you can't have ugly thoughts can you? It takes the edge off the righteous indignation.

 

it'd work better if it were true. Do I really have to debunk this tripe?

 

Yes, more please, your head is swelling with the knowledge you drop incessantly during fits of interweb RAGE!!!! Did you loose sleep last night crafting this post, cause I'll let you in on a little secret... ah nevermind.

[j_b]

sigh, talk about projecting on all levels. Of course, your rebuttal provides no real continuity or answers to what you pretend to address.

 

I have some advice for you: if you don't like people showing how much of a jackass you are, stop behaving like one in public.

[E-rock]

yes, *sigh*. Exasperation feels awesome too!

[KaskadskyjKozak]

if you don't like people showing how much of a jackass you are, stop behaving like one in public.

 

[j_b]

the monosyllabic idiot struck once again.

[KaskadskyjKozak]

the monosyllabic idiot struck once again.

 

AD HOMINEM AD HOMINEM!!!!

[j_b]

it's not like the content of your posts give us anything to reply to but the continual exhibit of your stupidity

[KaskadskyjKozak]

it's not like the content of your posts give us anything to reply to but the continual exhibit of your stupidity

 

You stated: "if you don't like people showing how much of a jackass you are, stop behaving like one in public. "

 

The fact that you don't see how laughable that is considering your posting history and patterns doesn't warrant much more effort than a ROTLMAO emoticon, you stupid kook.

 

[j_b]

More demonizing from the neofascistic thug who doesn't want people to say things he doesn't like.