Off_White Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Hey, look! Someone wrote "gullible" on the ceiling! just kidding, actually, it says "voter" Quote
E-rock Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 The Nazi had a sign at the entrance to the death camps, "they got what they deserved." Actually, I think it was "Work will make you free". Details... I got to the "Nazi" part of his post and stopped reading. "Here comes the Hyper-hyperbole Express." Makes no difference if it's in a soundbite or a paragraph. You just prefer the former. Quote
Crux Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Wisconsin Senate orders Democrats' arrest "take any and all necessary steps, with or without force, and with or without the assistance of law enforcement officers" Quote
Lucky Larry Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 The Nazi had a sign at the entrance to the death camps, "they got what they deserved." Actually, I think it was "Work will make you free". I looked up the quote, I was wrong , imagine, here it is,"Everyone gets what he deserves" Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 The Nazi had a sign at the entrance to the death camps, "they got what they deserved." Actually, I think it was "Work will make you free". I looked up the quote, I was wrong , imagine, here it is,"Everyone gets what he deserves" I recall it as AE does: Arbeit macht frei. What quote / reference are you getting this from? Quote
Lucky Larry Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) rob, I truly hope your belief in voting works out for you because that would mean that it still works for everyone else too. However, hope and belief systems have no scientific evidence. sickie The Egypt thing was based in the social internet arena because their ballot box no longer worked for them. I guess I do believe it when some guy says he flipped a switch to flip the election results. Historically the Jews believed the government and not the stories from their fellow citizens about the death camps. baa Look into the 1929 stock crash and the 2007 stock crash and great depression II. After 1929 congress enacted bank regulation to prevent another crash. Apparently congress$$$ and Clinton$$$ forgot why regulation good, and laissez-faire bad for citizens because they passed the legislation that made it legal for the banks to steal from the citizens. How many laws do you think were broken? If no laws were broken does that still mean it was ethical conduct? Did you vote for or against ethical conduct. Of course it's a stupid question. Most of the laws are stupid. Has anyone returned the stolen money or gone to jail besides Bernanke? Of course not--we voted for it! Here's another stupid law, why, because no teeth to it. The punishment for making false statements or reports that overvalue an asset is also stated in the U.S. Code:[60] Whoever knowingly makes any false statement or report, or willfully overvalues any land, property or security, for the purpose of influencing in any way...shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both. Everyone is born with a sense of right and wrong. Does a robber baron show his true self in front of an upright person? Of course not, he knows it is shameful. Now look at the Fed and who owned it then and who owns it now, who it helps, who prints more money, who carries the interest on national debt and who pays it. Study it for yourself, find the truth for yourself Its duties today, according to official Federal Reserve documentation, are to conduct the nation's monetary policy, supervise and regulate banking institutions, maintain the stability of the financial system and provide financial services to depository institutions, the U.S. government, and foreign official institutions.[7] What regulation, who's getting regulated here? Why don't they provide service to the people instead of the banks? What, you mean the Fed is not the federal government, they provide a service to the government, they conduct our monetary policy, they charge the government and the US citizen (double tax). It is also unusual in that an entity outside of the central bank, namely the United States Department of the Treasury, creates the currency used.[11] During the Fiscal Year 2008, the Bureau of Engraving and Printing delivered 7.7 billion notes at an average cost of 6.4 cents per note.[45] [edit] Krazy isn't it, play money out of thin air and worth less than the paper it's printed on. What I am getting at is no one voted for a shit storm, corrupt government, multi-million dollar lobbyists, white collar criminals, robber barons (federal reserve, banks, wall street--they are all in it together) and lies. And yet many people believe they deserve it. I don't think the people that did everything right and lost their pensions really care much for that line of reasoning, do you? They might even resent somebody that said they voted for it. I don't believe it's a conspiracy; more like greed, power, control, pride, nationalism, vanity, propaganda, fascism. God Bless all you fuckers because we are fucked, especially our children and grand kids. As Prez Raygun put it, 'you ain't seen nothing yet' Edited March 8, 2011 by Lucky Larry Quote
Lucky Larry Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) The Nazi had a sign at the entrance to the death camps, "they got what they deserved." Actually, I think it was "Work will make you free". I looked up the quote, I was wrong , imagine, here it is, Buchenwald: behind it's looming iron gates crowned with the chilling words, Jedem das Seine "Everyone gets what he deserves" I recall it as AE does: Arbeit macht frei. What quote / reference are you getting this from? From a guy that was a prisoner in one, got out, became a US citizen, joined the service, went back to fight the Nazi and liberate the prisoners from the camps, and use to be my neighbor. Thanks for asking. Edited March 8, 2011 by Lucky Larry Quote
rob Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 You're right, Larry. Listen, one of my neighbors who escaped from a death camp, swam across the pacific, spent 7 years in the US gaining citizenship, then joined the military, finished special forces training, invented the jet and the time-machine and flew to Germany in time to free the Jews, agrees with you. He also says that we'd all be better off getting rid of our vote and relying on twitter. In a strange string of coincidences, he also has a cousin whose friend's sister's boyfriend's father's neighbor's uncle worked for diebold and says he threw the switch to give Obama the election. They only made it look like 50% of americans voted, just to screw with people. That's why I think we should abandon democracy, and rely on social networking instead, because social networking is so much harder to manipulate. I take it all back, and bow to your superior grasp of logic. Quote
rob Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) You know what seems like a more liely scenario to me, Larry (instead of hidden, massive fraudulent schemes involving the wholesale faking of elections) is that a) Half of us don't vote b) Most of the half that do, have no idea what sort of person they're voting for. There are many reasons people don't seem to get it (Media, taking advantage of social habits of humans, exploiting ignorance, brainwashing, conspiracy theories, etc.) -- but I don't see any evidence at all that our system of voting in America is systemically broken. In fact, I see every indication that what we have is exactly the result of a functioning democractic vote constituated by ignorant voters, heavily influenced by special interests and billions of dollars of political advertising. But, that doesn't mean our vote is broken. Social networking won't fix the problem of an uninformed electorate. Suggesting we'd be better off without our vote strikes me as a form of treason that I just can't respect. Cheers! Edited March 8, 2011 by rob Quote
AlpineK Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Work Makes Free Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeit_macht_frei [img:center]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Camp_ArbeitMachtFrei.JPG[/img] Quote
ivan Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 it wasn't that long ago that one of the famous signs was stolen can't remember if it was methies looking for scrap metal or not? http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/18/auschwitz-arbeit-macht-frei-sign Quote
G-spotter Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Is that the camp where the Curta was invented? Quote
rob Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 I looked up the quote, I was wrong , imagine, here it is, Buchenwald: behind it's looming iron gates crowned with the chilling words, Jedem das Seine "Everyone gets what he deserves" I recall it as AE does: Arbeit macht frei. What quote / reference are you getting this from? Buchenwald's gate. Quote
Lucky Larry Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 Your right on rob, keep that voting up and get back to me in 30 years with the update on 'change'. Work will set you free and everyone gets what they deserve. Regardless bro, the end results are the same. By all means never actually talk to anyone on the streets or your neighbors--they cannot be trusted! And never talk with anyone that looks like they have been working their asses off--just low lifers. Most of all, ignore all the psychopathic behavior in government and society. Quote
rob Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) Hey, Larry -- what do YOU do to actually attempt to influence poltics? Since you say it doesn't work, I'm assuming you've tried. I'm curious, what did you try? How did you attempt to enlighten your fellow citizens about issues important to you? What did you do to try to enact change, before you decided it all just didn't work? You can't stand in the closet whispering, and then complain that your voice isn't being heard. You seem to have great faith in your fellow citizens that they didn't actually elect any of our corrupt leaders, but unfortunately, most of our citizens have their head up their ass. If you're unwilling to help educate them, then of course the "system doesn't work." You'd rather be at the mercy of social networking? May I remind you that Lady Gaga has the most followers? Good luck with that. Edited March 8, 2011 by rob Quote
rob Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Why do you think that people spend so many hundreds of millions of dollars on political advertising, if the election is all just rigged anyway? WEIRD, isn't it???? Quote
j_b Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 what about: "they" try to keep it close by disenfranchising as many as they can from the political process, then "they" try to steal the critically close races through systematic voter suppression (via both lawful and unlawful means) like in Florida 2000, Ohio 2004, ..? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression Quote
rob Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 You're right -- that proves our entire system of elections is broken. Let's all stop voting, and just tweet instead. Quote
j_b Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 I didn't say we should stop voting, on the contrary in fact, I suggested that lack of voters set the stage to make stealing elections possible. Quote
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