Choada_Boy Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 One Word: Nitro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 music involves a variety of instruments working together. Agreed. Obsessing on one instrument isn't a good thing. Who is obsessing? Greatest shredder could mean any instument. I am not just a guitar player. You probably don't get it. Get what? post 20 links to Eddie Van Halen for us to see. No Van Halen here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimZam Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Zappa or Jeff Beck. Please not Eddie Van Hamster. He's such a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 Zappa or Jeff Beck. Both amazing guitar players but hardly shredders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 You know, playing as many notes as possible, as quickly as possible, does not automatically equal good playing. Unless you are Buckethead [video:youtube]C-2w9b8i7GU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimZam Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 the daddy of R&R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Here is a shredder who plays with alot of passion. [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynicalwoodsman Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Ok I'll bite. Realize, of course, that art, its effect, affect, quality, and the perceived mastery of technique is ALL 100% subjective and open to individual interpretation. Who was a better artist, Rembrandt or Picasso? Michaelangeo or Rodin? If you ask me, the "quality" of art, and an attempt to quantify it epitomizes the arbitrary. Technique is not "feel" or passion. Some have feel and soul that they've been able to emit through their instrument. Dave Gilmore, Jeff Beck, and S.R.V. are some my faves in that way. When you can get that vibrato from holding a bend and doin' with your fret-hand, as opposed to with the whammy (good technique when applied "well", but for the sake of the vibrato itself: lame) that's the SHIT! I spend almost all my practice time holding and shaking bends. For pure technique, Vai is probably my favorite, and I think he's nailed both in a (very) few instances. 'For the love of God' comes to mind. With that said, there's probably someone out there who may have the ability to nail it without a wah or whammy on a stop bridge les paul. Like... DAYUMM DUDE! Shred for the sake of shred, to me is like jazz. It's masterbatory. Some like it. Not my bag. So I agree with all above posts making the point that a million notes a minute doesn't make my boat float. Do I wish I could do it? Hells yeah! But I no longer, since 20 yrs go, attempt it. In the end, for me, it's all about the final product: the song. And for the sake of the song, the instrument is no more than a tool applied to that end. But really, this thread is comparing apples and oranges and handgrenades. Quanitifying something that's purely qualitative is an exercise in futility... sorta like my wanting to learn to climb steep ice. But gosh darnit it's fun! The ability to blend both passion, and shred and yield something that "does it for us" is as subjective as it comes. Yet I believe most of us would agree its a rare ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 I agree with most of what you say, but this thread is about who is the greatest shredder of all time. Pure shredding....not pure passion. It is rare to get shredding with passion, but it does happen. Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 [video:youtube]efNdI8uzWN8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Why doesn't Kevbone ever mention Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles when he talks about, "shredding?" [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Shred for the sake of shred, to me is like jazz. It's masterbatory. someone is not very familiar with jazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynicalwoodsman Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 so what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynicalwoodsman Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Vai is the best shredder. There's nothing he can't do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Vai is one of the greats for sure.....personally I like Paul Gilbert myself as the greatest in terms of pure shredding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynicalwoodsman Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I agree with most of what you say, but this thread is about who is the greatest shredder of all time. Pure shredding....not pure passion. It is rare to get shredding with passion, but it does happen. Thanks for posting. I can post about whatever I want in spray. It's spray. thank YOU for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynicalwoodsman Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 there are a LOT of things about gilbert that make him better than vai. Vai has long ago become lost in his own shred. I think he suffers to come up with stuff that's pleasing to anyone's ear but his own. but he has pumped out some gems (no pun). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 there are a LOT of things about gilbert that make him better than vai. Vai has long ago become lost in his own shred. I think he suffers to come up with stuff that's pleasing to anyone's ear but his own. but he has pumped out some gems (no pun). [video:youtube]j_7iRZzlSzI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Vai has long ago become lost in his own shred. Well said, post of the week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Buckethead is to Vai and those old dudes like Adam Ondra is to Ben Moon. He does it better and faster and does shit they can't do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 [video:youtube]j_7iRZzlSzI Its like a guitar circle jerk. Amazing talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynicalwoodsman Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Guitar I know. Climbing is and will forever be an enigma to me. If I could only climb as well as I play... I'd wish I could play as well as I could climb. Where is the grass greener? Green grass? WAIT... that reminds me of something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 There's a helluva lot more to playing a guitar than playing fast. Today we lost one of my all time favorites. RIP Gary Moore. [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmo Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Buckethead is to Vai and those old dudes like Adam Ondra is to Ben Moon. He does it better and faster and does shit they can't do. plus he wears a bucket on his head so you can't see him do the metal grimace face. [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmo Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 and one more. [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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