kevbone Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I think this mess is a lot more complicated than "us good, them bad." Us and them are the same thing. Dem and Reps....are the same. They both support big business and big spending (two unpaid wars/occupations). Nancy Pelosi is just as much to blame as Bush. IMO. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 had bush been shot (as much as he might have deserved it), There you go - proof positive - thanks, Ivan! Quote
Peter_Puget Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Peace & Love Ford was shot at..... Ronnie was shot! Long live the revolution! Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Palin, the movement's primary spokeperson, is obviously a sociopath. As opposed to you? Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 proof positive.... of what, exactly? Left-wingers like Ivan regularly wish for the deaths of their political adversaries. After all "they deserve it". And yet these same blowhards go on and on about how the *other* side is calling for the deaths of the "other", and are the ones who are over the top in their rhetoric, etc, etc. Quote
prole Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 proof positive.... of what, exactly? Left-wingers like Ivan regularly wish for the deaths of their political adversaries. After all "they deserve it". And yet these same blowhards go on and on about how the *other* side is calling for the deaths of the "other", and are the ones who are over the top in their rhetoric, etc, etc. The main difference being that the Right is actually following through on a regular basis? Quote
prole Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 And that their radical fringe can bee seen and heard every day of the week on TV and radio, and that they actually occupy seats in Congress? Quote
Water Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 the main difference also being I cannot recall the last time Ivan shared such views as he led a campaign rally attended by thousands or spoke these views as a commentator on a national news program and went unchecked and supported by his political peers with the same level of national prominence. Quote
Choada_Boy Posted January 11, 2011 Author Posted January 11, 2011 Poor loggers! Watch out for them spikes, man! Here's some left-wing violence: [video:youtube] Quote
rob Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) proof positive.... of what, exactly? Left-wingers like Ivan regularly wish for the deaths of their political adversaries. After all "they deserve it". MOST Left-wingers don't wish for this anymore than MOST right-wingers do. These sort of generalized, polemic, personalized "us-vs-them" attacks that I'm decrying. Do you really thing Ivan regularly wishes for the deaths of his political adversities? Sigh. Edited January 11, 2011 by rob Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 proof positive.... of what, exactly? Left-wingers like Ivan regularly wish for the deaths of their political adversaries. After all "they deserve it". MOST Left-wingers don't wish for this anymore than MOST right-wingers do. These sort of generalized, polemic, personalized "us-vs-them" attacks that I'm decrying. Do you really thing Ivan regularly wishes for the deaths of his political adversities? Sigh. I didn't say MOST, you did; I said "like Ivan". TTK, Choada-Boy, and Ivan have all expressed a desire for certain right-wing politicians and commentators to be killed. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 The main difference being that the Right is actually following through on a regular basis? Wrong. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 the main difference also being I cannot recall the last time Ivan shared such views as he led a campaign rally attended by thousands or spoke these views as a commentator on a national news program and went unchecked and supported by his political peers with the same level of national prominence. Yeah, right, he's just a school teacher. Never mind. Quote
prole Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 The main difference being that the Right is actually following through on a regular basis? Wrong. I like how you're so dumb. It makes this place fun. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 The main difference being that the Right is actually following through on a regular basis? Wrong. I like how you're so dumb. It makes this place fun. Dumb enough to think I need to pack a weapon 'cos I'm gonna live in SCARY Everett? That kind of dumb? Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 So, yeah, sorry about the junk yard dog. Musta gotten off his chain. Maybe we can get on with our discourse, now, assuming he's bitten enough ankles. The fact that a pro violence, pro punishment movement is also pro gun should come as a surprise to no one. There is nothing inconsistent in the tea bagger message in this regard. It is an open threat that should not be discarded lightly, particularly after Saturday's tragedy. All political movements, like all behaviors, are not created equal. Some openly and actively attack the public good. The tea bagger movement is one of them. Quote
prole Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 The main difference being that the Right is actually following through on a regular basis? Wrong. Here you go, dummy: Rightwing Extremism: US Department of Homeland Security Assessment, 2009 Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 The main difference being that the Right is actually following through on a regular basis? Wrong. Here you go, dummy: Rightwing Extremism: US Department of Homeland Security Assessment, 2009 So, *that's* your excuse for buying a hand gun? Quote
Choada_Boy Posted January 11, 2011 Author Posted January 11, 2011 They weren't cross-hairs, they were surveyor's marks! DUH! My bad, I take back everything I've said. Carry on... Quote
rob Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 They weren't cross-hairs, they were surveyor's marks! DUH! My bad, I take back everything I've said. Carry on... clearly they were crosshairs. Even still, do you really think that sarah palin intentionally intended them to mean that these people should be shot? Quote
Fairweather Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Dude, where is the historical record of leftist vitriol congruent with violent action in the last 30 years much less the last three? Your "dude abides", "same as it ever was", and "it's all the same, left or right" doesn't correspond with historical reality. Pull your head out. Compare that to McVeigh, the Texas plane attack, abortion docs, shooting congressmen and judges.... Very weak. Here's a good place to begin the long climb out of the small box you've built around yourself: Das Unabomber. Libtard extraordinaire. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 You seem to be implying that words and symbols don't have real power to sway, particularly the insane, to violence. For realz? Anyone care to spray paint a swastika on their car door and test that assertion? Get real. You're responsible for what you put out there. I've called a few morons morons on this site, and I take full responsibility for whatever erosive effect its had on their already truncated self esteem. It's not easy to be fuckin stupid, and I do have some empathy for these posters for the trog-like, primary color existence these poor potato-eaters are sentenced for life to. We've all seen one dumb cunt post his gun collection here as a lame, ineffectual threat. What if that dumb cunt had 30 million followers? Would posting that gun collection and, say, posting a name and location be as cool? Would a carry with it some responsibility? Quote
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