Plaidman Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 From Super Topo Thread: Have you ever started a climbing rumor on accident? By deuce4: My favorite was how I described in the Big Wall Tech Manual about how to "X-em, Rock-em, Paste-em, and Sniff-em" when placing heads. The "Sniff-em" part was a joke --"if it stinks, get off it!" Then the Mountaineers in Seattle completely plagiarized my work in the 5th Edition of Mountaineering, Freedom of the Hills. They took the "Sniff-em" part literally, and described in detail how a bad copperhead would emit some sort of special odor. I wrote to the Mountaineers, one, to complain about the unacknowledged and blatant rip-off of my written work (about 20 pages of Freedom of the Hills was my work, paraphrased), and two, to point out to them their ridiculous error. I never heard back from them. For years afterward, I heard climbers talking about the special odor of a bad copperhead! Even by some experienced wall climbers who had actually placed a head (not like the plagiarizers at the Mountaineers, who had obviously just rewritten my work without any real knowledge of aid climbing). Quote
Lodestone Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 That's funny. I'd read that and assumed it was true. Tricked again! Chad Quote
Jens Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 Best laugh of the week!!!! I can see it now, some Mountaineers Club Leader over at that new mountie lodge in N.E. Seattle giving a lecture on aid climbing........ Quote
ivan Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 aid climbers DO smell funny though....kinda like my high school art teacher's smock Quote
RaisedByPikas Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 Can anyone scan the portion that describes the sniffing and paste it on here? Quote
stevetimetravlr Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 I learned to climb with the Mounties way back when, and also had the privledge of climbing with a few of them in recent years. There are some pretty damn good climbers in the Mountaineers as well as aid climbers,so I find it funny people are jesting at them although I guess I have done it as well thru the years. Anybody out there getting it done, well got to hand it to them. It a big organization that introduces allot of people to the sport, so they do have allot of slow moving groups out and about which doesn't help their image I guess. and a bad copperhead does stink. either that or you soiled your britches bitches! Quote
Plaidman Posted November 30, 2010 Author Posted November 30, 2010 Can anyone scan the portion that describes the sniffing and paste it on here? I'll try to find it. It is in the 5th edition. I looked in the 7th edition and it is not there. Quote
111 Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 I looked in the 7th edition and it is not there. surprise surprise! Quote
Plaidman Posted December 1, 2010 Author Posted December 1, 2010 Can anyone scan the portion that describes the sniffing and paste it on here? I'll try to find it. It is in the 5th edition. I looked in the 7th edition and it is not there. I found it in the 5th edition Quote
Marko Posted December 1, 2010 Posted December 1, 2010 From Super Topo Thread: Have you ever started a climbing rumor on accident? By deuce4: My favorite was how I described in the Big Wall Tech Manual about how to "X-em, Rock-em, Paste-em, and Sniff-em" when placing heads. The "Sniff-em" part was a joke --"if it stinks, get off it!" deuce4 is Middendorf then? Quote
beer_factor Posted December 1, 2010 Posted December 1, 2010 6th edition still has it... page 262. Love it Quote
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