tvashtarkatena Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 Jesus, so do I. I realized just how much on that trip with Josh. It's easy to forget, sometimes. Plus, I haven't done a trip with my brofriend Don since the fall. Too long. Quote
Off_White Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 Aww fuck, you guys are off topic! I miss that stuff too, c'mon summer. Quote
j_b Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 How about this one from the "small government" hypocrites: "With the state facing a budget shortfall of at least $11 billion, Texas Gov. Rick Perry has spent almost $600,000 in public money during the past two years to live in a sprawling rental home in the hills above the capital, according to records obtained by The Associated Press. It costs more than $10,000 a month in rent, utilities and upkeep to house Perry in a five-bedroom, seven-bath mansion that has pecan-wood floors, a gourmet kitchen and three dining rooms. Perry has also spent $130,000 in campaign donations to throw parties, buy food and drink, and pay for cable TV and a host of other services since he moved in, the records show. The public spending on Perry's rental comes as the state grapples with a budget shortfall forecast to reach at least $11 billion over the next two years. Perry has asked state agencies to cut their budgets by 5 percent and the Republican House speaker has begun to consider furloughs and shortened workweeks for state employees." http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/business/7008554.html I really wonder if the teachers and other "freeloaders" are going to have to halve their pay check to please the looters in charge. Quote
Fairweather Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 How about this one from the "small government" hypocrites: "With the state facing a budget shortfall of at least $11 billion, Texas Gov. Rick Perry has spent almost $600,000 in public money during the past two years to live in a sprawling rental home in the hills above the capital, according to records obtained by The Associated Press. It costs more than $10,000 a month in rent, utilities and upkeep to house Perry in a five-bedroom, seven-bath mansion that has pecan-wood floors, a gourmet kitchen and three dining rooms. Perry has also spent $130,000 in campaign donations to throw parties, buy food and drink, and pay for cable TV and a host of other services since he moved in, the records show. The public spending on Perry's rental comes as the state grapples with a budget shortfall forecast to reach at least $11 billion over the next two years. Perry has asked state agencies to cut their budgets by 5 percent and the Republican House speaker has begun to consider furloughs and shortened workweeks for state employees." http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/business/7008554.html I really wonder if the teachers and other "freeloaders" are going to have to halve their pay check to please the looters in charge. So, in j_b's world: Republican looters = bad; Democrat looters = wonderful. There is an almost identical scenario in Olympia right now w/ a K$$ vacant rental for the president of TESC. What a dumb shit. Quote
j_b Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Not only is your brand of logic quite shitty but by now you should know that you have to substantiate everything you say for you can't be trusted. Quote
j_b Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 In the "thanks again, republitards" department: In his attempt to protect the right of predatory lenders to fleece America's troops and their families, Republican Senator Sam Brownback wrote a letter to a top Defense Department official, citing a consumer advocate in support of his position. But in his zeal to protect auto dealers over members of the military, Brownback selectively quoted the advocate, Raj Date of the Cambridge Winter Center for Financial Institutions Policy, to give the impression that Date agreed with Brownback's contention that lending would dry up if auto dealers are not given free reign. Brownback Defends Predatory Lenders In Misleading Letter To Pentagon Quote
Fairweather Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Not only is your brand of logic quite shitty but by now you should know that you have to substantiate everything you say for you can't be trusted. Here you go, champ: http://www.king5.com/news/investigators/Investigators-Local-college-pays-for-home-to-sit-empty-and-unused-81992452.html The president of the Evergreen State College in Olympia is getting extra perks that some say are out of touch with today's reality. Since the inception of the college in 1971, each president of Evergreen State has lived in the official residence of the college. It’s a five bedroom, three bathroom home with a view of the water and Mount Rainier. It’s already paid for as well. But for the last five years the home’s been empty; collecting bills and dust. President Dr. Les Purce, who declined to be interviewed for this report, moved into a new home to be closer to a bus line to accommodate a family member with a disability. "The current house simply would not work for the Purce family, so that was the impetus for this move," said Jason Wettstein, Evergreen State College Public Information Officer. Needing bus service is a perfectly legitimate reason to relocate, but the KING 5 Investigators looked into whether the cost should be passed on to taxpayers. A mortgage expert tells us the payment for the president's new house would be roughly $2,500 a month. His housing allowance, authorized by the Board of College Trustees, is $5,000 a month. That adds up to $270,000 and counting in extra housing dollars since the move. Dr. Purce's salary is about $246,000 a year. Students on campus just saw their tuition go up 14 percent and expect another hike soon. "That's crazy to me because if he's getting more than the house is worth, then that's just extra money that he's being given by the taxpayers," said student Jeff Konen. The spending doesn't stop at the president's new doorstep. The old home is racking up expenses. The KING 5 Investigators obtained billing records for the official residence; expenses since the home’s sat empty and unused: $15,000 for utilities, $10,000 for repairs and upgrades, $15,000 to paint and furnish the home to try to sell it, $3,000 in yard maintenance. "Housing affordability and access is constantly an issue for students so it would have been nice for that to go to some affordable housing. Maybe we could rent out that extra house for some students to live in for a while," said student Josephine Jarvis. Expenses for the old house, plus the housing allowance for the new one, has cost taxpayers an estimated $313,000 so far. "You know what they say, $300,000 here, $300,000 there. It begins to add up to real money eventually," said student Alexandre Chateaubriand. Amber Gunn, Director of the Economic Policy Director of the conservative political watch-dog group Evergreen Freedom Foundation, suggested KING 5 look into the story after she ran across a Request for Quotes put out by the college. The request was for companies to bid on cleaning the president’s new home twice a week. "It just shows, (they’re) completely oblivious to what is happening around the rest of the state by the unemployment rate and budget problems,” said Gunn. The cleaning contract is a detailed one which includes: twice a week do the dishes and take out the trash. Once a week wash the floor with wood-friendly soap. Once a month clean window sills and the range hood. That’s an extra $300 a month, not to exceed $778 a month. "The cleaning service is basically a way to keep the house presentable for public events and to clean up after the public events and these public events in a private home are a regular part of the president's job," said Wettstein. Records show nine or so events are held at the home each year. The additional costs come on the backdrop of the state's financial problems: a $2.6-billion deficit. "And yet we see instances like this where we have a public university with a president who can't do his own dishes and take out his own trash and is asking taxpayers to subsidize that. I see that as highly problematic and symptomatic of other things that are happening in government as well where we have waste like this in small amounts and it adds up and it adds to our budget problems as well," said Gunn. According to county records, the assessed value of the old home is $773,000. The school first tried to sell it four years ago when the housing market was hot. It's not clear why there were no takers. It's now on the rental market, offered at $2,000 a month. We checked with Western Washington, Central and Eastern Washington Universities. Each requires the president to live in the official residence as a condition of employment. Quote
ivan Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 they should use the abandoned n' paid for domicile as a brothel - that oughta net the state some money n' make all parties happy Quote
j_b Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 what a misleading article. The president of Evergreen State College needed housing closer to mass transit because of a family member with a disability. Meanwhile, the college has done maintenance on the house it owned in order to sell it but it has apparently not been able to do so in this market. End of story. Quote
rob Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 what a misleading article. The president of Evergreen State College needed housing closer to mass transit because of a family member with a disability. Meanwhile, the college has done maintenance on the house it owned in order to sell it but it has apparently not been able to do so in this market. End of story. Nah. It sounds pretty messed up to me. That's a lot of perks for the president in a school which is raising tuitions drastically to "make ends meet." One of these is not like the other. I'm not saying it's the president's fault or that there was any ill-intention here or whatever, but come on. Something stinks. It's wasteful. You should trim all of the waste and inefficiencies out before you raise tuitions 14% or whatever. Quote
billcoe Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Nah. It sounds pretty messed up to me. That's a lot of perks for the president in a school which is raising tuitions drastically to "make ends meet." One of these is not like the other. I'm not saying it's the president's fault or that there was any ill-intention here or whatever, but come on. Something stinks. It's wasteful. You should trim all of the waste and inefficiencies out before you raise tuitions 14% or whatever. So, have we ascertained that the President, based on this story, is a Republitard and NOT a Demotard? Quote
rob Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Nah. It sounds pretty messed up to me. That's a lot of perks for the president in a school which is raising tuitions drastically to "make ends meet." One of these is not like the other. I'm not saying it's the president's fault or that there was any ill-intention here or whatever, but come on. Something stinks. It's wasteful. You should trim all of the waste and inefficiencies out before you raise tuitions 14% or whatever. So, have we ascertained that the President, based on this story, is a Republitard and NOT a Demotard? What's the difference? Flip sides of the same fucktard coin. Quote
j_b Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 Nah. It sounds pretty messed up to me. That's a lot of perks for the president in a school which is raising tuitions drastically to "make ends meet." One of these is not like the other. I'm not saying it's the president's fault or that there was any ill-intention here or whatever, but come on. Something stinks. It's wasteful. You should trim all of the waste and inefficiencies out before you raise tuitions 14% or whatever. I certainly concur that it's messed up when tuition go up while waste abound but in this case it didn't result from conspicuous spending on luxury items as in the Texas case. The other difference of course is I doubt the college spews continual propaganda about "big government" spending while partying on the taxpayer's dime. Quote
j_b Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 So, have we ascertained that the President, based on this story, is a Republitard and NOT a Demotard? What's the difference? Flip sides of the same fucktard coin. well, not quite. Democrats are led by corporacrats as well and should be kicked around until they get their shit together, but the GOP is FUBAR since it has been taken over by right wing extremists. Quote
rob Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 So, have we ascertained that the President, based on this story, is a Republitard and NOT a Demotard? What's the difference? Flip sides of the same fucktard coin. well, not quite. Democrats are led by corporacrats as well and should be kicked around until they get their shit together, but the GOP is FUBAR since it has been taken over by right wing extremists. ? Fucktards are fucktards. If you're a fucktard, who cares what your party is. You are now a member of the fucktard party. Democrats and Republicans both share membership in this prestigious club. It's a binary value. You're either a fucktard, or you're not. You could be in either party. That's irrelevant. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 It's kind of like turds. You could be a dog turd, or a human turd, but, either way, you'd still taste as sweet. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted May 19, 2010 Posted May 19, 2010 they should use the abandoned n' paid for domicile as a brothel - that oughta net the state some money n' make all parties happy Add gambling and a 'compassionate cafe' and you've got a three-fer. Quote
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