Love a Muslim: Seattle version

[Fairweather]

Islam instead of solely being the problem can actually yield solutions.

 

 

Yes, we're all waiting...

[Nitrox]

It is seriously twisted (or more likely stupid) to claim that people who blow themselves up with their victims on another continent are worse evil than those going around chopping limbs and bellies a few countries over (let's not mention any of the other methods of achieving 'collateral damage'). To claim that it is a worse evil because the perpetrators are muslims makes it islamophobic.

 

Actually, an organization that is motivated enough to send covert operatives to another country and blow them selves up makes them a much larger threat and much larger risk. Sword wielding African rebels don't generally pose much of a threat to the well being of the west, whom the Islamic fanatics target, so they generally are not discussed.

 

Funny how it comes back to discrimination with some people. We don't have a problem with Zimbabwe nationals or Roman Catholics planning suicide attacks. It's nearly a singular threat with a singular common trait, Islamic Radicalism.

 

 

[tvashtarkatena]

It is seriously twisted (or more likely stupid) to claim that people who blow themselves up with their victims on another continent are worse evil than those going around chopping limbs and bellies a few countries over (let's not mention any of the other methods of achieving 'collateral damage'). To claim that it is a worse evil because the perpetrators are muslims makes it islamophobic.

 

Actually, an organization that is motivated enough to send covert operatives to another country and blow them selves up makes them a much larger threat and much larger risk. Sword wielding African rebels don't generally pose much of a threat to the well being of the west, whom the Islamic fanatics target, so they generally are not discussed.

 

Funny how it comes back to discrimination with some people. We don't have a problem with Zimbabwe nationals or Roman Catholics planning suicide attacks. It's nearly a singular threat with a singular common trait, Islamic Radicalism.

 

 

You're apparently not up on your history of terrorist attacks on U.S. interests and personnel worldwide. Show us a credible report (not the a picture of 911) that supports your assertion that Radical Islam, and not other political motivations, are chiefly responsible for all the terrorist attacks on the U.S. Or worldwide against any targets, for that matter.

 

Good luck.

[billcoe]

Next to the threat of a nuclear weapon, or battery of them: all of these terrorism threats totaled are but a speck on the pimple on the ass of a fly. Until the terrorists get nukes of course. A 220 Kn nuke fired off in a ground /air burst mode would make a shallow hole nearly 5 miles round across. Thats a lot of World Trade Centers inside that hole.

 

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/04/president-obama-al-qaeda-is-seeking-a-nuke-to-kill-innocents.html

 

http://beta.thehindu.com/news/international/article397393.ece

 

 

[tvashtarkatena]

They way to deal with Radical Islamicides Who Hate Our Fucking Ass (RIWHOFA) is to invite em over for some BBQ. After a few tallboys, a couple a pulled pork sammies, and an eyefull a those proud-nippled Georgia peaches, those motherfuckers'll be surfin their iPhones for a pair of TruckNutz.

Edited May 12, 2010 by tvashtarkatena

[Nitrox]

It is seriously twisted (or more likely stupid) to claim that people who blow themselves up with their victims on another continent are worse evil than those going around chopping limbs and bellies a few countries over (let's not mention any of the other methods of achieving 'collateral damage'). To claim that it is a worse evil because the perpetrators are muslims makes it islamophobic.

 

Actually, an organization that is motivated enough to send covert operatives to another country and blow them selves up makes them a much larger threat and much larger risk. Sword wielding African rebels don't generally pose much of a threat to the well being of the west, whom the Islamic fanatics target, so they generally are not discussed.

 

Funny how it comes back to discrimination with some people. We don't have a problem with Zimbabwe nationals or Roman Catholics planning suicide attacks. It's nearly a singular threat with a singular common trait, Islamic Radicalism.

 

 

You're apparently not up on your history of terrorist attacks on U.S. interests and personnel worldwide. Show us a credible report (not the a picture of 911) that supports your assertion that Radical Islam, and not other political motivations, are chiefly responsible for all the terrorist attacks on the U.S. Or worldwide against any targets, for that matter.

 

Good luck.

 

All terrorist events carried out by Islamic Terrorists (the list excludes prevented attempts from Islamic extremists):

 

* 26 February 1993 – World Trade Center bombing, New York City. 6 killed.

* 13 March 1993 – 1993 Bombay bombings. Mumbai, India. The single-day attacks resulted in over 250 civilian fatalities and 700 injuries.

* 28 July 1994 – Buenos Aires, Argentina. Vehicle suicide bombing attack against AMIA building, the local Jewish community representation, leaves 85 dead and more than 300 injured.

* 24 December 1994 – Air France Flight 8969 hijacking in Algiers by 3 members of Armed Islamic Group of Algeria and another terrorist. 7 killed including 4 hijackers.

* 25 June 1996 – Khobar Towers bombing, 20 killed, 372 wounded.

* 17 November 1997 – Luxor attack, 6 armed Islamic terrorists attack tourists at Egypts famous Luxor Ruins. 68 foreign tourists killed.

* 14 February 1998 – The 1998 Coimbatore bombings occurred in the city of Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India. 46 people were killed and over 200 were injured in 13 bomb attacks within a 12 km radius.

* 7 August 1998 – 1998 United States embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya. 224 dead. 4000+ injured.

* 4 September 1999 – A series of bombing attacks in several cities of Russia, kills near 300 people.

* 12 October 2000 – Attack on the USS cole in the Yemeni port of Aden.

* 11 September 2001 – 4 planes hijacked and crashed into World Trade Center and The Pentagon by 19 hijackers. Nearly 3000 dead.[152]

* 13 December 2001 – Suicide attack on India's parliament in New Delhi. Aimed at eliminating the top leadership of India and causing anarchy in the country. Allegedly done by Pakistan-based Islamist terrorist organizations, Jaish-E-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Toiba.

* 27 March 2002 – Suicide bomb attack on a Passover Seder in a Hotel in Netanya, Israel. 30 dead, 133 injured.

* 30 March 2002 and 24 November 2002 - Attacks on the Hindu Raghunath temple, India. Total 25 dead.

* 7 May 2002 – Bombing in al-Arbaa, Algeria. 49 dead, 117 injured.

* 24 September 2002 – Machine Gun attack on Hindu temple in Ahmedabad, India. 31 dead, 86 injured.[153][154]

* 12 October 2002 – Bombing in Bali nightclub. 202 killed, 300 injured.[155]

* 16 May 2003 – Casablanca Attacks – 4 simultaneous attacks in Casablanca killing 33 civilians (mostly Moroccans) carried by Salafaia Jihadia.

* 11 March 2004 – Multiple bombings on trains near Madrid, Spain. 191 killed, 1460 injured (alleged link to Al-Qaeda).

* 1 September 2004 Approximately 344 civilians including 186 children, are killed during the Beslan school hostage crisis.[156][157]

* 2 November 2004 – Ritual murder of Theo van Gogh (film director) by Amsterdam-born jihadist Mohammed Bouyeri.

* 4 February 2005 – Muslim terrorists attacked the Christian community in Demsa, Nigeria, killing 36 people, destroying property and displacing an additional 3000 people.

* 5 July 2005 - Attack at the Hindu Ram temple at Ayodhya, India; one of the most holy sites of Hinduism. 6 dead.

* 7 July 2005 – Multiple bombings in London Underground. 53 killed by four suicide bombers. Nearly 700 injured.

* 23 July 2005 – Bomb attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh, an Egyptian resort city, at least 64 people killed.

* 29 October 2005 – 29 October 2005 Delhi bombings, India. Over 60 killed and over 180 injured in a series of three attacks in crowded markets and a bus, just 2 days before the Diwali festival.[158]

* 9 November 2005 – 2005 Amman bombings. Over 60 killed and 115 injured, in a series of coordinated suicide attacks on hotels in Amman, Jordan.[159][160] Four attackers including a husband and wife team were involved.[161]

* 7 March 2006 – 2006 Varanasi bombings, India. An attack attributed to Lashkar-e-Taiba by Uttar Pradesh government officials, over 28 killed and over 100 injured, in a series of attacks in the Sankath Mochan Hanuman temple and Cantonment Railway Station in the Hindu holy city of Varanasi.[162] Uttar Pradesh government officials.

* 11 July 2006 – Mumbai, India. 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings were a series of seven bomb blasts that took place over a period of 11 minutes on the Suburban Railway in Mumbai (formerly known as Bombay). 209 people lost their lives and over 700 were injured in the attacks.

* 14 August 2007 – Qahtaniya bombings: Four suicide vehicle bombers massacred nearly 800 members of northern Iraq's Yazidi sect in the deadliest Iraq war's attack to date.

* 26 July 2008 – Ahmedabad, India. Islamic terrorists detonate at least 16 explosive devices in the heart of this industrial capital, leaving at least 49 dead and 160 injured. A Muslim group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen claims responsibility. Indian authorities believe that extremists with ties to Pakistan and/or Bangladesh are likely responsible and are intent on inciting communal violence.[163] Investigation by Indian police led to the eventual arrest of a number of terrorists suspected of carrying out the blasts, most of whom belong to a well-known terrorist group, The Students Islamic Movement of India.[164]

* 13 September 2008 – Delhi, India. Pakistani extremist groups plant bombs at several places including India Gate, out of which the ones at Karol Bagh, Connaught Place and Greater Kailash explode leaving around 30 people dead, followed by another attack two weeks later at the congested Mehrauli area, leaving 2 people dead.

* 26 November 2008 – Mumbai, India. Muslim extremists kill at least 174 people and wound numerous others in a series of coordinated attacks on India's largest city and financial capital. A group calling itself the Deccan Mujaheddin claims responsibility, however, the government of India suspects Islamic terrorists based in Pakistan are responsible. Ajmal Kasab, one of the terrorists, was caught alive.[165][166]

* 25 October 2009. Baghdad, Iraq. During a terrorist attack, two bomber vehicles detonated in the Green Zone, killing at least 155 people and injuring 520.

* 28 October 2009 – Peshawar, Pakistan. A car bomb is detonated in a woman exclusive shopping district, and over 110 die with 200 or more injured.

* 5 November 2009 - Fort Hood, Texas, USA. U.S. Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan, an American Muslim of Palestinian descent, shot and killed 13 people and wounded 30 others at a U.S. Army base.

* 3 December 2009 – Mogadishu, Somalia. A male suicide bomber disguised as a woman detonates in a hotel meeting hall. The hotel was hosting a graduation ceremony for local medical students when the blast went off, killing four government ministers as well as other civilians.[167]

* 1 January 2010 – Lakki Marwat, Pakistan. A suicide car bomber drove his explosive-laden vehicle into a volleyball pitch as people gathered to watch a match killing more than 100 people.[168]

* 1 May 2010 - New York, New York, USA. Faisal Shahzad, an Islamic Pakistani American who received U.S. citizenship in December 2009, attempted to detonate a car bomb in Times Square working with the Pakistani Taliban or Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.

 

 

Timothy McVeigh is the only exception of a terrorist event within US borders that was not carried out by a Islamic extremist since at least 1993.

 

 

[rob]

Timothy McVeigh is the only exception of a terrorist event within US borders that was not carried out by a Islamic extremist since at least 1993.

 

 

Really? Guess that depends on how you define "terrorist event." What about the Virginia Tech shooting? Or columbine? Or that recent mall shooting? Or remember when all those amish kids were taken hostage in that school house? Or the D.C. sniper?

 

sheesh. I mean, I think the world would be better off without Islam, dont get me wrong, but they are hardly the sole supplier of crazy people.

[Fairweather]

They way to deal with Radical Islamicides Who Hate Our Fucking Ass (RIWHOFA) is to invite em over for some BBQ. After a few tallboys, a couple a pulled pork sammies, and an eyefull a those proud-nippled Georgia peaches, those motherfuckers'll be surfin their iPhones for a pair of TruckNutz.

 

Apparently you're not up to speed on the life of Muhammed Atta during the months before his final flight. Been there. Tried that. Didn't work. Won't work. The only way to deprogram some of these zealots is by running a big electro-magnet over their hard drive--or just disconnecting the power supply. Think about how hard it was for you to shed that Catholic indoctrination--then multiply it by 1000, and subtract any hint of a secular education. Can't. Be. Done.

[kevbone]

Timothy McVeigh is the only exception of a terrorist event within US borders that was not carried out by a Islamic extremist since at least 1993.

 

 

Really? Guess that depends on how you define "terrorist event." What about the Virginia Tech shooting? Or columbine? Or that recent mall shooting? Or remember when all those amish kids were taken hostage in that school house? Or the D.C. sniper?

 

 

Or how about all 8 years of the Bush Administration with his "war on terror"......running our lives with fear.

[j_b]

Actually, an organization that is motivated enough to send covert operatives to another country and blow them selves up makes them a much larger threat and much larger risk. Sword wielding African rebels don't generally pose much of a threat to the well being of the west, whom the Islamic fanatics target, so they generally are not discussed.

 

Funny how it comes back to discrimination with some people. We don't have a problem with Zimbabwe nationals or Roman Catholics planning suicide attacks. It's nearly a singular threat with a singular common trait, Islamic Radicalism.

 

is it really necessary to remind your stupid insensitive ass that ~5 million people were murdered in the Congo alone around the turn of the 21st century? I know, they are of no concern to you. Racist fuck.

[j_b]

Next to the threat of a nuclear weapon, or battery of them: all of these terrorism threats totaled are but a speck on the pimple on the ass of a fly.

 

indeed, or even compared to traditional warfare.

 

Until the terrorists get nukes of course. A 220 Kn nuke fired off in a ground /air burst mode would make a shallow hole nearly 5 miles round across. That's a lot of World Trade Centers inside that hole.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/04/president-obama-al-qaeda-is-seeking-a-nuke-to-kill-innocents.html

 

http://beta.thehindu.com/news/international/article397393.ece

 

aren't we still financing 3 modes of delivering nuclear payloads? why the double talk?

[Nitrox]

Actually, an organization that is motivated enough to send covert operatives to another country and blow them selves up makes them a much larger threat and much larger risk. Sword wielding African rebels don't generally pose much of a threat to the well being of the west, whom the Islamic fanatics target, so they generally are not discussed.

 

Funny how it comes back to discrimination with some people. We don't have a problem with Zimbabwe nationals or Roman Catholics planning suicide attacks. It's nearly a singular threat with a singular common trait, Islamic Radicalism.

 

is it really necessary to remind your stupid insensitive ass that ~5 million people were murdered in the Congo alone around the turn of the 21st century? I know, they are of no concern to you. Racist fuck.

 

People die every single day, should I write a book report about each and every one? Your argument is weak so you changed the subject.

 

Murder is still murder, however, prioritizing threats is very much job number one. Its what allows you to enjoy your nice comfortable life and run your naive mouth on the internet. It doesn't mean there is automatically racism or fear, it is a recognition of historical data and what groups are currently doing what.

 

I freely admit to being insensitive. I really don't give a fuck what you "feel".

 

 

 

 

[Nitrox]

They way to deal with Radical Islamicides Who Hate Our Fucking Ass (RIWHOFA) is to invite em over for some BBQ. After a few tallboys, a couple a pulled pork sammies, and an eyefull a those proud-nippled Georgia peaches, those motherfuckers'll be surfin their iPhones for a pair of TruckNutz.

 

Apparently you're not up to speed on the life of Muhammed Atta during the months before his final flight. Been there. Tried that. Didn't work. Won't work. The only way to deprogram some of these zealots is by running a big electro-magnet over their hard drive--or just disconnecting the power supply. Think about how hard it was for you to shed that Catholic indoctrination--then multiply it by 1000, and subtract any hint of a secular education. Can't. Be. Done.

 

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[j_b]

You are changing the subject because nobody was talking about "prioritizing threats". Whether we or people across the pond are the subject of the violence doesn't make something more backward or whatever.

[Nitrox]

You are changing the subject because nobody was talking about "prioritizing threats". Whether we are the subject of the violence or people across the pond are doesn't make something more backward or whatever.

 

Whether or not we are the subject of the violence dictates how we react to the threat or the potential threat. Genocide in Africa does not effect us in the same way Islamic extremists do when they destroy a building with a car bomb. Rebel Africans lack the ability and the motivation until you add in the religious components.

 

Your said "Islamophobe", that suggests there is an irrational fear which is ridiculous. There is a clear threat that exists within the Islamic extremist culture. There is not the same threat in groups such as Catholic Poles or Mormon Missionaries.

[j_b]

You are changing the subject, moron. I was answering JayB who has been claiming for the last 8 pages or so that the barbarian nature of the actions of Muslim extremists was somehow due to the Muslim faith because it was especially backward or some other islamophobic drivel. I only showed that many other types of people commit atrocities today and you somehow interjected that you couldn't care less about others.

[Nitrox]

You are changing the subject, moron. I was answering JayB who has been claiming for the last 8 pages or so that the barbarian nature of the actions of Muslim extremists was somehow due to the Muslim faith because it was especially backward or some other islamophobic drivel. I only showed that many other types of people commit atrocities today and you somehow interjected that you couldn't care less about others.

 

Nope, it stemmed from you interjecting recognition of the threat was actually bigotry against Islam.

 

You said:

 

Why won't we won't stand for your bigoted claim that the Muslim religion is somehow the cause of all these atrocities? I think it's pretty obvious why considering your bloody record against Muslim people.

 

 

 

Then you followed it up with:

 

JayB is in fine company:

 

The Dirty Dozen

Who's who among America's leading Islamophobes

 

Bigots aren’t born, and hate doesn’t spring up on its own; as the song says, “You’ve got to be carefully taught.” The following list includes some of the media’s leading teachers of anti-Muslim bigotry, serving various roles in the Islamophobic movement. Some write the books that serve as intellectual fodder, others serve as promoters, others play the roles of provocateurs and rabble-rousers. Some ply their bigotry in the media’s mainstream, others in the Internet’s tributaries, while still others work talk radio’s backwaters. Together with uncounted smaller players, they form a network that teaches Americans to see Islam in fearful terms and their Muslim neighbors as suspects.

 

[...]

 

Article here: The Dirty Dozen

 

You've spouted so much worthless drivel you can't even remember what you've said.

[j_b]

So, my remarking that racist morons spew racist propaganda to justify having their policies kill countless Muslims is somehow "threat recognition"? Forget it dude. You don't make any sense whatsoever but if you think your racist propaganda is going fly unnoticed, you are quite mistaken, Adolf.

[Nitrox]

So, my remarking that racist morons spew racist propaganda to justify having their policies kill countless Muslims is somehow "threat recognition"? Forget it dude. You don't make any sense whatsoever but if you think your racist propaganda is going fly unnoticed, you are quite mistaken, Adolf.

 

 

 

BLAHAHAHAHAHAHA, take you ball and go home, Douchebag.

 

 

[olyclimber]

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAA

 

 

 

dismiss

[billcoe]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100520/ap_on_hi_te/as_pakistan_internet_crackdown

 

To counter the "everyone draw Mohammed" movement, Pakistan has banned and of Utube, Facebook and some other crap for the entire country until its over. Seriously. You can't make this shit up.

 

____________________________________________________________

Full story:

 

"

Muslim concerns trigger Pakistani Web bans

 

By CHRIS BRUMMITT, Associated Press Writer Chris Brummitt, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 44 mins ago

 

ISLAMABAD – Pakistan blocked YouTube and many other Internet sites Thursday in a widening crackdown on online content deemed offensive to Islam, reflecting the secular government's sensitivities to an issue that has ignited protests in the Muslim country.

 

The move came a day after the government obeyed a court order to block Facebook over a page called "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day!" that encourages users to post images of Islam's Prophet Muhammad. Most Muslims regard depictions of the prophet, even favorable ones, as blasphemous.

 

Supporters of an Islamist political party protested against Facebook in at least three cities in small and peaceful rallies. The government, which is unpopular among many Islamists for siding with the United States in the war against the Taliban and al-Qaida, is hoping that the website bans will lessen anger in the days ahead.

 

"We are ready to die protecting the honor of our beloved Prophet Muhammad," said Aysha Hameed, one of 1,000 female protesters in Multan city.

 

Others — mostly members of the more secular, educated elite — accused the government of blocking freedom of expression and hurting small businesses that use Facebook for marketing. Many questioned need for the entire Facebook and YouTube sites to be blocked, instead of individual pages on them.

 

About 20 million of Pakistan's 180 million people are Internet users and social networking sites are among the most popular, especially among those younger than 25. Pakistan's Internet service providers' association said usage had dropped by about 25 percent since Wednesday.

 

The offending Facebook page encourages users to post images of the prophet on May 20 to protest threats made by a radical Muslim group against the creators of the American TV series "South Park" for depicting Muhammad in a bear suit during an episode earlier this year.

 

"Such malicious and insulting attacks hurt the sentiments of Muslims around the world and cannot be accepted under the garb of freedom of expression," Foreign Ministry spokesman Abdul Basit said. "

[rob]

[tvashtarkatena]

What does the Men's Warehouse guy have to do with all of this?

[j_b]

Well, that certainly taught them that freedom of speech is foremost.

 

Making fun of their cultural practices is sure to make them more open to dialog. Not only is it a well proven concept but it won't provide cover for our racists to challenge their bigots. Woohoo!

[tvashtarkatena]

I guarantee it!