TX crashers Manifesto

[Fairweather]

Sounds like the guy couldn't make it in engineering OR economics.

he coulda always taught gym

 

"Software Engineer" is always a suspect class, IMO.

[StevenSeagal]

This looks kinda like the war he's been hoping for.

 

You mean "the big show"?

 

[video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HCk3uAkYi0&feature=player_embedded

 

Damn... He's not even subtle about it, the declaration is "if we lose the next election we're going to pick up the guns and start using them". I'm surprised the FBI isn't tracking this wacko.

[Stonehead]

I'm pretty sure all he was talkin' bout was puttin sum food on the table.

 

[video:youtube]v=516v4O2kR8M

[prole]

This looks kinda like the war he's been hoping for.

 

You mean "the big show"?

 

[video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HCk3uAkYi0&feature=player_embedded

 

Damn... He's not even subtle about it, the declaration is "if we lose the next election we're going to pick up the guns and start using them". I'm surprised the FBI isn't tracking this wacko.

 

The best part? Yeah, he's a plumber.

You cannot make this shit up.

 

Behney told 6News' Norman Cox that he wasn't threatening anyone, but simply expressing the fear and concern he's heard from thousands of Hoosiers.

 

He said he believes that if unresponsive politicians continue with out-of-control spending, the United States will wind up like Haiti, with a collapsed economy and broken down society, forcing Americans to arm themselves to defend their homes.

 

"If we continue down this road in the years to come, we could find ourselves in the same position, and in a position where we literally would find ourselves defending our families," Behney said.

 

Behney, who is best known as the owner of the Atta-Boy plumbing firm, said his disgust with excessive government spending led him into the Tea Party movement, and now into the Senate race.--from Channel 6!

 

 

[ZimZam]

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.

[Crillz]

Stack may have went off the deep end, and killing innocent people is wrong -

 

But... the dude said a lot of what, I bet many of us say after we've had a few . Agree, knocking off a politico would be better use of crashing a plane.

[j_b]

Media frenzy for sure died off pretty quickly about this. How long did it go on for the underwear bomber?

 

One would think that sensationalism sells as many are fond of saying to explain 24/7 fear-mongering (right?), so why so little hand wringing and fear mongering in the corporate media about anti-government/anti-tax types crashing airplanes into buildings?

 

 

[RedNose]

The IRS is a bully government run business. Killing oneself does make a statement, but in the end do you gain anything with all the sheep in United States?

Killing others loses the message totally.

How does the average American make a statement that the IRS and its illogical taxation is totally out of whack? We'd need a Coffee (for lack of a better word) Party of the average Americans saying WE ARE NOT GOING TO PAY TAXES ANY LONGER UNTIL THE SITUATION IS EVEN FOR ALL! No more tax dodges etc. Everyone pays the same %.

Until then we are fucked!(and I don't give a shit what party or what party you are not the IRS is fucked)

[JayB]

Media frenzy for sure died off pretty quickly about this. How long did it go on for the underwear bomber?

 

One would think that sensationalism sells as many are fond of saying to explain 24/7 fear-mongering (right?), so why so little hand wringing and fear mongering in the corporate media about anti-government/anti-tax types crashing airplanes into buildings?

 

 

Seemed to be more than a little anti-corporate vitriol mixed into Tonto's suicide note. I can see how passages like the following:

 

"

Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours? Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political “representatives” (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the “terrible health care problem”. It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in."

 

...might have seemed like craven pro-corporate apologetics to you, though.

[ivan]

Media frenzy for sure died off pretty quickly about this. How long did it go on for the underwear bomber?

 

i disagree w/ this premise - y-day i saw 4 news sites reporting on dude's daughter calling him a "hero" - they still are running w/ the ball

 

but then there's always competition for crazy - for example, y-day all the talking heads could bally-hoo about an ACTUAL terrorist pleading guilty also, this dude didn't manage to do much damage, so he was immediately sent to the showers...

[j_b]

If the corporate media had treated the Austin event like they did the underwear bomber event, this is what you'd have read/heard 24/7 on the "news":

 

 

Wake Up America: The Looming Threat of Terrorists in Small Aircraft... and Cars

 

by Dave Lindorff

 

The deliberate suicide crash bombing by a domestic terrorist pilot of a small plane into an IRS building in Austin, Texas has exposed a grave failure of the Homeland Security Department to protect us Americans from the threat posed by the virtually unregulated use in this country of small aircraft.

 

Just about anyone can own and fly a small plane, and these, as we have now seen, are readily adaptable into kamikazi missiles capable of destroying large buildings.

 

If Homeland Security won't act, then it is up to Congress to move quickly to tighten up security and control over small planes. We need to insist that anyone seeking a pilot's license first submit to a full screening by the FBI. No one with a criminal record of any kind should be permited to fly or ride in a small plane. The same should be true with regard to all foreigners. Since it's not possible to do a full check of the background of persons from other countries, only US citizens should be able to obtain and fly small aircraft within US airspace.

 

All civil air pilots and their passengers should be required to pass through meal detectors before entering an airfield. We don't want them carrying hand grenades or other weapons onto their planes. Planes should also be subject to full searches by specially trained government inspectors before takeoff to be sure they have not been packed with explosives.

 

But that's not enough. We should ban all small aircraft from flying within a mile of any urban areas, and the military should be given authority to take down any plane that violates that rule. The Airforce should be ordered to have fighters, armed with loaded machine guns, in the air at all times, ready to be called into action if a small plane appears to be on a threatening flight path.

 

America cannot lower its guard.

 

After a would-be terrorist tried to take down a commercial plane over the Atlantic by hiding explosives in his shoe, Homeland Security responded appropriately by requiring all air travelers, from old men in wheelchairs to infants in booties, to remove their shoes and have them run through an Xray machine. When a terrorist wannabe tried to concoct an explosive from two jars of chemicals he had brought on board a plane, Homeland Security appropriately responded by banning toothpaste and all other liquid or semiliquid substances from carry-on bags--even women's pancake makeup and lipstick. More recently, when terrorists developed the insidious underwear bomb, first used last December, Homeland Security responded with a plan to introduce backscatter Xray machines at all airports, which can see under people's clothes.

 

These measures were fine as far as they go, but how can we now do less than crack down on the virtually unmonitored use of small planes in this country?

 

Of course, while we're at it, we need to consider the much bigger problem of the widespread access to cars and trucks, which are equally capable of being made into four-wheeled bombs. If a deranged man can use a plane to take out an IRS building, how long will it be before another equally deranged man or woman who fails a driver's test decides to take out a motor vehicle office?

 

There is only one solution. We need to crack down heavily on who can obtain a driver's license. Probably the best solution would be to require anyone seeking a drivers licence to first undergo psychological screening. Nobody found to have anger management difficulties, or any history of violent or aggressive behavior, should be allowed to own or drive a vehicle. (One good screening technique would be to slow down service at motor vehicle offices even more, and then to bar anyone who shows signs of impatience or anger from obtaining a license.)

 

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not in favor of going overboard here. I'm certainly not suggesting that we start doing something draconian or unconstitutional like limiting gun sales, or preventing people from buying machine guns or bazookas or anything like that. That would be unAmerican. But we do need to crack down on the ability of terrorists, foreign or domestic, to get ahold of moving vehicles--airborne or ground-based--which in the wrong hands could be used to threaten Americans with mayhem.

 

The Austin IRS building attack was a wake-up call.

 

It's time to act to keep Americans safe!

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/02/19-4

[j_b]

 

Seemed to be more than a little anti-corporate vitriol mixed into Tonto's suicide note. I can see how passages like the following:

 

 

...might have seemed like craven pro-corporate apologetics to you, though.

 

Populist rhetoric is cheap and right wing anti-tax demagogues use plenty of it. Otherwise, they wouldn't get so many average joes to vote against their own interests. Yet, once the confused rhetoric settles, this guy's actions amount to 1) cheating on his taxes, and 2) killing innocents, including a 67 y.o. government worker who apparently couldn't retire despite your claim of his living fat-ly on taxpayers' money.

[Stonehead]

Of course, while we're at it, we need to consider the much bigger problem of the widespread access to cars and trucks, which are equally capable of being made into four-wheeled bombs. If a deranged man can use a plane to take out an IRS building, how long will it be before another equally deranged man or woman who fails a driver's test decides to take out a motor vehicle office?

 

There is only one solution. We need to crack down heavily on who can obtain a driver's license. Probably the best solution would be to require anyone seeking a drivers licence to first undergo psychological screening. Nobody found to have anger management difficulties, or any history of violent or aggressive behavior, should be allowed to own or drive a vehicle. (One good screening technique would be to slow down service at motor vehicle offices even more, and then to bar anyone who shows signs of impatience or anger from obtaining a license.)

 

I think you misread this article. It's subtly directed at our Second Amendment rights (well, at least those citizens who still take stock in the Bill of Rights). The article starts out serious but then it takes a slight turn with his solution to the problem of regulating potentially dangerous weapons (supposedly the car or airplane). Then read the next paragraph...

 

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not in favor of going overboard here. I'm certainly not suggesting that we start doing something draconian or unconstitutional like limiting gun sales, or preventing people from buying machine guns or bazookas or anything like that. That would be unAmerican. But we do need to crack down on the ability of terrorists, foreign or domestic, to get ahold of moving vehicles--airborne or ground-based--which in the wrong hands could be used to threaten Americans with mayhem.