richard_noggin Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 While belaying at nevermind at exit 38 I overheard two climbers talk’n, one said to the other I think all these climbs are my friend’s Garth Bruce I guess now I know why Garth leaves out FA information in his guides books He has a few mank climbs in the area and none at nevermind, leavening out FA info is just mank and BTW all the climbs on the black slab we did rock left are not 5.9 dumb fuck, why change the old rateings? does he not climb the routes Pretty lame when BB and LW among others did most of the development in the area and BB helped with the access and had the first guide, than he gets shanked out of notoriety and a guide book,WTF everone else puts in FA information Quote
Kimmo Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 huh? Yup. STFU, boner mebbe it's the glass of cotes du rhone with lunch, but this shit just busts me up. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 huh? Yup. STFU, boner mebbe it's the glass of cotes du rhone with lunch, but this shit just busts me up. mmmm cotes du rhone Quote
kevbone Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 huh? Yup. STFU, boner How original. Quote
billcoe Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 While belaying at nevermind at exit 38 I overheard two climbers talk’n, one said to the other I think all these climbs are my friend’s Garth Bruce I guess now I know why Garth leaves out FA information in his guides books He has a few mank climbs in the area and none at nevermind, leavening out FA info is just mank and BTW all the climbs on the black slab we did rock left are not 5.9 dumb fuck, why change the old rateings? does he not climb the routes Pretty lame when BB and LW among others did most of the development in the area and BB helped with the access and had the first guide, than he gets shanked out of notoriety and a guide book,WTF everone else puts in FA information name Initial dropper Quote
Off_White Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 I believe Mr Noggin is ranting against the practice of leaving FA information out of guidebooks. This was a fashion developed awhile back to supposedly take the ego out of the first ascent game because you wouldn't get any fame out of it. Personally, I find FA information useful because it tells you things about what to expect: protection spacing, quality of cleaning, character of the line; all these things are affected by an individual's approach to climbing. Some folks routes, you know you've got to be feeling dialed in, others, you know you could skip the route and not miss much. Quote
Bug Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Well I am just feeling uplifted from reading another one of Dick's cheerfully enlightening posts. Quote
Edlinger Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 I've heard a lot of behind the scenes drama about north bend guides of past, present, and future. I've certainly heard through the grapevine about some bad blood over some of the guides and future guides to be done. (All my info is third hand though). What makes the whole thing so interesing is that the north bend guides are the cash cows of the guidebooks in Washington. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 They certainly must make more than my last guide book: "Casino Rock: Climbing Washington's Reservation Gaming Monuments" Quote
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