No. 13 Baby Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Meanwhile: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8344083&page=1 "Poll: 57% Don't See Stimulus Working Six Months After Obama Launched Stimulus, Majority of Americans Think It's Done Little to End Recession..." The confused and angry white people who think the stimulus was supposed to "do its thing" in six months are just precious. Obama said the stimulus plan approved by Congress and signed into law in mid-February "was not designed to work in four months -- it was designed to work over two years." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenSeagal Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 That's cause the part that Bush caused wasn't really that bad and should have been easily fixed but Obama screwed things up way worse. Actually Obama caused the whole economic downturn a couple of years ago, didn't you hear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigchampion Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 obama is a very smart man, he is going to make all of our lives easier. the private sector is failing, it's about time the government takes over. i'm gonna be first in line at the clinic, can't wait to get these warts removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 even a GOP poll found that 66% want a public option available: http://washingtonindependent.com/48140/gop-poll-yes-people-want-a-public-option and many more ... I wonder if more people understood the idea of not-for-profit insurance co-ops, as Conrad is pushing, that the public support for the "public option" would dwindle further. Sure, give it a few more month of propaganda by the corporate media and betrayal by elected officials, and the public option will have less than 50% approval. Between the continual fear-mongering ("Obama is a commie vampire who will send the elderly to the gas chamber"), the lack of discussing single-payer healthcare, and constant mouthing of conservative talking points, what do you expect people to do? Think they are being manipulated by elites into doing what's not good for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I'm considering the 66-76% in support of a public option are voting more for a change or against the current mess rather than for anything. They know that medicare works. They know that 1/3-1/4 of them have very poor to non-existent access to healthcare, which is an excellent way to lose everything they have if a serious illness occurs in the family. They know that single-payer/mixed systems work much better (not even close) in all other advanced nations. They are supporting taking healthcare away from the profiteers: [video:youtube]ICDKY5CwexA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenSeagal Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Just heard on the radio! "all of you in congress who we didn't vote for last time and would never vote for under any circumstances- we're voting you OUT in 2010! You're on NOTICE!!!" Ooooohhh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Right, as if there would be no consequences for not delivering what they promised (those that did). This betrayal of representative democracy may well continue but for how long and at what expense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Just heard on the radio! "all of you in congress who we didn't vote for last time and would never vote for under any circumstances- we're voting you OUT in 2010! You're on NOTICE!!!" Ooooohhh! the opposition base is pissed... so are a significant number of those that voted for B-HO. At least that's true today. 14 months left until midterm elections... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenSeagal Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Just heard on the radio! "all of you in congress who we didn't vote for last time and would never vote for under any circumstances- we're voting you OUT in 2010! You're on NOTICE!!!" Ooooohhh! the opposition base is pissed... so are a significant number of those that voted for B-HO. At least that's true today. 14 months left until midterm elections... exactly. The opposition base is pissed (they always are, whether in power or out), and once again the democrats are going to shoot themselves in the foot by squabbling endlessly amongst themselves and will then wonder how they blew it so quickly. Meanwhile the Republicans can't wait to take back power in 2010 and maybe 2012 too, so they can get back to doing absolutely nothing about health care except maintaining the profit margins of the insurance lobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Just heard on the radio! "all of you in congress who we didn't vote for last time and would never vote for under any circumstances- we're voting you OUT in 2010! You're on NOTICE!!!" Ooooohhh! the opposition base is pissed... so are a significant number of those that voted for B-HO. At least that's true today. 14 months left until midterm elections... exactly. The opposition base is pissed (they always are, whether in power or out), and once again the democrats are going to shoot themselves in the foot by squabbling endlessly amongst themselves and will then wonder how they blew it so quickly. Meanwhile the Republicans can't wait to take back power in 2010 and maybe 2012 too, so they can get back to doing absolutely nothing about health care except maintaining the profit margins of the insurance lobby. the base was pretty blase during the 2008 election I'm hoping for a viable third party to rise up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Meanwhile: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8344083&page=1 "Poll: 57% Don't See Stimulus Working Six Months After Obama Launched Stimulus, Majority of Americans Think It's Done Little to End Recession..." The confused and angry white people who think the stimulus was supposed to "do its thing" in six months are just precious. Except for "cash for clunkers". That was working too well, and they're mad about that, because they think that if the govt can't run cash-for-clunkers, they cannot run healthcare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenSeagal Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 the base was pretty blase during the 2008 election I'm hoping for a viable third party to rise up that's cause between Obama's popularity and how bad Bush had screwed things up, it was probably pretty hard to get too excited about anything. People are still in denial, they think as soon as the stimulus works or whatever that economic recovery is going to look like how things have been for the past 2 or 3 decades- unbridled debt spending, soaring home prices, and no manufacturing. The reality is I think that our standard of living as a whole can remain adequate and comfortable but necessarily has to decrease- considering that it has all this time been built on illusion and speculation rather than concrete footing. For some who have lived within their means it won't mean much, for others... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 People are still in denial, they think as soon as the stimulus works or whatever that economic recovery is going to look like how things have been for the past 2 or 3 decades- unbridled debt spending, soaring home prices, and no manufacturing. The reality is I think that our standard of living as a whole can remain adequate and comfortable but necessarily has to decrease- considering that it has all this time been built on illusion and speculation rather than concrete footing. For some who have lived within their means it won't mean much, for others... agreed, except I am not sure our "standard of living" will decrease - just spending on stupid shit we don't need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenSeagal Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 People are still in denial, they think as soon as the stimulus works or whatever that economic recovery is going to look like how things have been for the past 2 or 3 decades- unbridled debt spending, soaring home prices, and no manufacturing. The reality is I think that our standard of living as a whole can remain adequate and comfortable but necessarily has to decrease- considering that it has all this time been built on illusion and speculation rather than concrete footing. For some who have lived within their means it won't mean much, for others... agreed, except I am not sure our "standard of living" will decrease - just spending on stupid shit we don't need. that is more or less what I mean, but for a disturbing number of people, buying a lot of SHIT constitutes a quantifiable standard of living... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_H Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Freedom means buying whatever you want even if you can't afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Freedom means buying whatever you want even if you can't afford it. Freedom means starving or not getting adequate health care if you choose to buy too much shit you can't afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 The Starting Nine: CF Bobby Jindal 2B Glenn Beck 3B Newt Gingrich 1B Rush Limbaugh RF Joe the Plumber RF Michele Bachmann SS Mike Huckabee C Ashley Todd P Sarah Palin I don't think these morons are going to make it too far into the postseason... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenSeagal Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Freedom means buying expensive health insurance and nonetheless losing your entire life savings to medical bills when you get sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenSeagal Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 The Starting Nine: CF Bobby Jindal 2B Glenn Beck 3B Newt Gingrich 1B Rush Limbaugh RF Joe the Plumber RF Michele Bachmann SS Mike Huckabee C Ashley Todd P Sarah Palin I don't think these morons are going to make it too far into the postseason... don't forget Sean Hannity selling hot dogs, Mark Levin as the angry manager, Michael Savage as the costumed mascot pantomiming murdering effigies of the other team, and Anne Coulter scrubbing toilets in the locker room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 the base was pretty blase during the 2008 election Uh, yeah... Can't wait to see what you've got lined up for us next time around! [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Freedom means buying expensive health insurance and nonetheless losing your entire life savings to medical bills when you get sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 if universal healthcare is evil b/c its socialism, and socialism is evil therefore it cannot be tolerated, then why the fuck are we friends w/ so many socialist countries? why did we lobby so hard to get them to join the freedom (fuck yeah!) team in iraq and afhganistan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 the base was pretty blase during the 2008 election Uh, yeah... Can't wait to see what you've got lined up for us next time around! We know what you have lined up... a tour of N. Korea would suffice to illustrate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I'm hoping for a viable third party to rise up Like the South? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Just heard on the radio! "all of you in congress who we didn't vote for last time and would never vote for under any circumstances- we're voting you OUT in 2010! You're on NOTICE!!!" Ooooohhh! the opposition base is pissed... so are a significant number of those that voted for B-HO. At least that's true today. 14 months left until midterm elections... exactly. The opposition base is pissed (they always are, whether in power or out), and once again the democrats are going to shoot themselves in the foot by squabbling endlessly amongst themselves and will then wonder how they blew it so quickly. Meanwhile the Republicans can't wait to take back power in 2010 and maybe 2012 too, so they can get back to doing absolutely nothing about health care except maintaining the profit margins of the insurance lobby. the base was pretty blase during the 2008 election I'm hoping for a viable third party to rise up like zombies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.