jon Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I'm tired of the political banter so here we go. http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/11/04/mouse-clone-mammoth.html I work in science and I have to say I'm really not thrilled people are trying to do this. My biggest argument against it is that we can't use cloning and regenerating extinct species to justify our inability to live in a world harmoniously and in a sustainable manner. In the case of the Wholly Mammoth, the theory is that the animal went extinct due to climate change at the end of the ice age and because of over-hunting by humans. Yeah, humans 8000 years ago didn't know better, but that doesn't mean we should bring it back. We could make the same argument in 8000 years "yeah we didn't know that chopping down the Amazon that resulting in the extermination of 10,000 species was going to make a difference." We need to live with the fact that our actions result in the extinction of beautiful species and learn from it and try to prevent events that might have an irreversible impact on the world. Quote
G-spotter Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 The only reason people might be able to do it with mammoths is because there are some intact ones frozen in the permafrost. Good luck trying this with, say, the dodo. No frozen dodos out there. Quote
jon Posted November 5, 2008 Author Posted November 5, 2008 "Previously a problem to reproduction, pandas lose their interest in mating once in captivity. This has led some scientists to try extreme methods such as showing pandas videos of mating pandas[26] and giving male pandas Viagra.[27] " ROFL. Pandas watching pr0n and popping viagra! Quote
olyclimber Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I would like the to bring back the T-Rex, because I think it would make an awesome creature to saddle up and ride. Quote
Hugh Conway Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 First thing I thought of was this: http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/09/23/ancient-yeast-beer.html Trapped inside a Lebanese weevil covered in ancient Burmese amber, a tiny colony of bacteria and yeast has lain dormant for up to 45 million years. A decade ago Raul Cano, now a scientist at the California Polytechnic State University, drilled a tiny hole into the amber and extracted more than 2,000 different kinds of microscopic creatures. Activating the ancient yeast, Cano now brews barrels (not bottles) of pale ale and German wheat beer through the Fossil Fuels Brewing Company. "You can always buy brewing yeast, and your product will be based on the brewmaster's recipes," said Cano. "Our yeast has a double angle: We have yeast no one else has and our own beer recipes." The beer has received good reviews at the Russian River Beer Festival and from other reviewers. The Oakland Tribune beer critic, William Brand, says the beer has "a wierd spiciness at the finish," and The Washington Post said the beer was "smooth and spicy." Part of that taste comes from the yeast's unique metabolism. "The ancient yeast is restricted to a narrow band of carbohydrates, unlike more modern yeasts, which can consume just about any kind of sugar," said Cano. Quote
rob Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 First thing I thought of was this: http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/09/23/ancient-yeast-beer.html Trapped inside a Lebanese weevil covered in ancient Burmese amber, a tiny colony of bacteria and yeast has lain dormant for up to 45 million years. A decade ago Raul Cano, now a scientist at the California Polytechnic State University, drilled a tiny hole into the amber and extracted more than 2,000 different kinds of microscopic creatures. Activating the ancient yeast, Cano now brews barrels (not bottles) of pale ale and German wheat beer through the Fossil Fuels Brewing Company. "You can always buy brewing yeast, and your product will be based on the brewmaster's recipes," said Cano. "Our yeast has a double angle: We have yeast no one else has and our own beer recipes." The beer has received good reviews at the Russian River Beer Festival and from other reviewers. The Oakland Tribune beer critic, William Brand, says the beer has "a wierd spiciness at the finish," and The Washington Post said the beer was "smooth and spicy." Part of that taste comes from the yeast's unique metabolism. "The ancient yeast is restricted to a narrow band of carbohydrates, unlike more modern yeasts, which can consume just about any kind of sugar," said Cano. hahaha, barrels -- not bottles. this better be at the next rope-up Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I'd love to have an eohippus. Three cute li'l toes 'n all. Great size for the city, too. Quote
TrogdortheBurninator Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I recommend we improve on nature a bit. forwards, not backwards.... Quote
glassgowkiss Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I'm tired of the political banter so here we go. http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/11/04/mouse-clone-mammoth.html I work in science and I have to say I'm really not thrilled people are trying to do this. My biggest argument against it is that we can't use cloning and regenerating extinct species to justify our inability to live in a world harmoniously and in a sustainable manner. In the case of the Wholly Mammoth, the theory is that the animal went extinct due to climate change at the end of the ice age and because of over-hunting by humans. Yeah, humans 8000 years ago didn't know better, but that doesn't mean we should bring it back. We could make the same argument in 8000 years "yeah we didn't know that chopping down the Amazon that resulting in the extermination of 10,000 species was going to make a difference." We need to live with the fact that our actions result in the extinction of beautiful species and learn from it and try to prevent events that might have an irreversible impact on the world. Jon, yeah, don't fuck with nature. i think this direction is like opening sealed pandora box. but i have the same feelings about gm food- who the hell knows what it does to us in a long run? Quote
marc_leclerc Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) I would like the to bring back the T-Rex, because I think it would make an awesome creature to saddle up and ride. For such a fearsome creature T-Rex's sure have gay little arms. Edited November 5, 2008 by marc_leclerc Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 Dood. It's not like the place is gonna be overrun with mammoths. Clone the sucker, I say. That would be too cool. Quote
hafilax Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I just noticed the colouring instructions. I want a crayon box with: -rapturous red -prefect white -behemoth blue -leviathan green -omnipotent yellow and most of all -flesh of Christ Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I think that T-rex green might hint as to what the author was doing just before he put that idea to paper. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I just noticed the colouring instructions. I want a crayon box with: -rapturous red -prefect white -behemoth blue -leviathan green -omnipotent yellow and most of all -flesh of Christ I think I just found my exterior trim color. Thanks, H. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 What I'd like to know is why is Jebus waving a six foot long round worm around? Quote
hafilax Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 That's his water to wine red trim on his super-hero cape. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 And here I thought it was the Holy Spirit fuckin' around again. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 BTW, I originally thought this thread was gonna be about bringing Gingrich back for 2012. Quote
sobo Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I can't believe that someone allowed that kinda shit in a kid's coloring book. Jeebus Christ, man, the dinousaurs died out over 65 million years ago! The Bible covers all of life on earth for the past 6,000 years, give or take a few. Didn't that guy do the math? Quote
hafilax Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I'm guessing you haven't been to the Creation Museum then. http://www.creationmuseum.org/ Quote
sobo Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: I wish I was smart enough to capture that Creation Museum commercial and post it up here as a YouTube. OMFG, that was hilarious! Thanks, hafilax, I needed that! Quote
Off_White Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 Not all extinct species should be revived... Quote
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