Fairweather Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/21/mccain-campaign-says-new-york-times-blocked-op-ed-response-to-obama/ The Times told McCain’s advisers that it would not accept the op-ed in its current form because it did not offer new information. Obama’s speech previewed a series of speeches leading up to a highly publicized trip to war zones in the Middle East. “I’d be very eager to publish the senator on the op-ed page. However, I’m not going to be able to accept this piece as currently written. I’d be pleased, though, to look at another draft. Let me suggest an approach,”..."It would be terrific to have an article from Senator McCain that mirrors Senator Obama’s piece. To that end, the article would have to articulate, in concrete terms, how Senator McCain defines victory in Iraq. It would also have to lay out a clear plan for achieving victory — with troops levels, timetables and measures for compelling the Iraqis to cooperate. And it would need to describe the Senator’s Afghanistan strategy, spelling out how it meshes with his Iraq plan,” Shipley wrote. ...Shipley, who was named deputy editor in January 2003, served in the Clinton administration as a senior presidential speechwriter and special assistant to the president from 1995 to 1997. Edited July 22, 2008 by Fairweather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 cueing rationalizations in 3...2...1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/21/mccain-campaign-says-new-york-times-blocked-op-ed-response-to-obama/ The Times told McCain’s advisers that it would not accept the op-ed in its current form because it did not offer new information. Obama’s speech previewed a series of speeches leading up to a highly publicized trip to war zones in the Middle East. “I’d be very eager to publish the senator on the op-ed page. However, I’m not going to be able to accept this piece as currently written. I’d be pleased, though, to look at another draft. Let me suggest an approach,”..."It would be terrific to have an article from Senator McCain that mirrors Senator Obama’s piece. To that end, the article would have to articulate, in concrete terms, how Senator McCain defines victory in Iraq. It would also have to lay out a clear plan for achieving victory — with troops levels, timetables and measures for compelling the Iraqis to cooperate. And it would need to describe the Senator’s Afghanistan strategy, spelling out how it meshes with his Iraq plan,” Shipley wrote. ...Shipley, who was named deputy editor in January 2003, served in the Clinton administration as a senior presidential speechwriter and special assistant to the president from 1995 to 1997. Good.....bout time. Anything to keep from going through another 4 years of bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal_Con Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 No rationalizations, you can read the proposed op-ed on Drudge and it was pretty lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No. 13 Baby Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I'm sure there's something funnier than fox "news" reporting on questionable journalistic standards -- but I'll be damned if I can think of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 but that is a rationalization! because its like your opinion man, and we all know opinions are rationalizations. for some people at least! what would be better is an irrationalization. we've seen plenty of that from the RIGHT WING FUCKNUTS. its like when you use fuzzy math...facts are just things people bring up to confuse voters into supporting LEFT WING COMMIE PINKO HIPPOCRITS. but i find it funny that rationalizations might be construed as a negative thing. i guess they are when they are contrary to your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 as predicted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 so what do you do if you don't rationalize ? you don't actually use rational thinking, do you? how zen. and liberal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 so what do you do if you don't rationalize ? you don't actually use rational thinking, do you? how zen. and liberal. porter, stop arguing with the homeless panhandlers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 rationally speaking, its the ones with a house in Magnolia that really bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 rationally speaking, its the ones with a house in Magnolia that really bother me. the last time a dog wearing a trenchcoat spoke rationally to me I had a 1/5th of JD and a page of blotter in me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 wqYqn8_S0OI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 "volunteer escort service!!!" DADDY LIKES JvSfFOJO9e0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I shoot children and priests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 as predicted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 you've come with a very pretty prostitute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 actually its a dog...in a trench coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 that's why I came to Bruges, a better price for my pussy here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 if you mean by Bruges, a pit in Kurt's basement, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 that's where JZ stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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builder206 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Who hates America more? A) Liberals B) Democrats C) Commies D) Liberals E) Unitarians F) Communists G) Socialists H) Democrats I) Commies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 "J" of BC bud) Canuckians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJiggler Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 As a bleeding heart Liberal who worships at the alter of the NYT and the once proud Pravda, I was ready to defend the NYT for this. But then I thought about it and realized that it is the job of the newspaper of record to take an even handed approach toward the election. This is until I read the piece. Summary: Obama hasn't endored my surge Man that guy sounds like a little whiner. The whole article is about Obama. Nothing about McCain. Hasn't McCain heard the saying that all press is good press. He should be talking about what he would do to fix the mess in Iraqm not about Obama.Obama gets enough press w/o McCain talking about him all the time. That piece really doesn't live up to NYT standards. If he puts something news worthy together they should run it. But this isn't it. McCain's campaign comes down to this. "I spent 5 years in a tiger cage! I deserve to be president DAMMIT!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 No rationalizations, you can read the proposed op-ed on Drudge and it was pretty lame. Screw Drudge. That asshole. I gave up on that asswipe recently when his relentless posting of every pissy little negative Hillary artical was put on his OP-Ed site called the "Drudgereport" in huge headlines throughout the primaries. That kind of shit is just wrong. Very wrong. BTW, I never supported her, did not want her to win, and had $200 bucks on the fact that she wouldn't win the Dem nomination, so I don't have have a horse in that race and I'm happy she lost. I just thought it was underhanded, sneaky and plain very very wrong the way Drudge continually attacked her this way - much more upfront and obvious than the NYT and Fox could ever dream of or try. You'd think as a gay person he'd support a Bi-Lesbian like Hillary, but alas.... I understand the rational here on the McCain thing, it's favoritism. Newspapers can do that on editorial pages. Thats why it's an "Editorial" and not a "news" story. They pick candidates all the time, and the NYT will pick Obama if they haven't already done so. Boycott Drudge. At least we know the editorial slant that NYT and Fox bring to the table. I didn't think that the McCain piece was lame at all. One of these men will be the commander in Chief soon, the rant was very Germaine and appros to that IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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