archenemy Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I think that you can make the ethical case solely on the distinction between voluntary and coerced activity, ... I would argue that many women are coerced into prostitution and legalization will not change this fact - and not even improve the situation (it could make it worse). It is as if no one has noticed that when you ask a gal of any age what she wants to be when she grows up, she NEVER says, "a whore". I can't recall any saying "IT professional" or "waitress" either. Obviously your experience with females is rather limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel_Hutz Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 i really don't see why someone would get more out of using a prostitute than just masturbating Yeah, fucking and jacking off are the exact same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 i really don't see why someone would get more out of using a prostitute than just masturbating Yeah, fucking and jacking off are the exact same thing. they are for some people. other people are good at fucking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I want to marry a rich guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 well, i have an extremely attractive hand. its hard to "beat". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I want to marry a rich guy. whore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 THere you go, trying to tie me down with your rules. Don't legislate my body! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 It is as if no one has noticed that when you ask a gal of any age what she wants to be when she grows up, she NEVER says, "a whore". True, but at a young age, few of us knew the kinds and extent of compromises we would make along the way. We are all whores. We only rationalize the large and small sales of ourselves by our personal credos and perception of cultural acceptance. There is a big difference between "whoring" oneself in the figurative sense and having to risk your life on the streets to survive. And for the record, I think prostitution should be legalized and regulated. This would help protect the safety and the health of all involved. On the human side of it though, I think it is very sad that men and women have to resort to paying for sex or providing it for money. I think sex is one of the most beautiful gifts we are given, and to cheapen it this way must make people feel empty in their hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 if legalized and taxed, the funds raised from prostitution alone could pay for the 12 billion a month cost of the war in Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 i really don't see why someone would get more out of using a prostitute than just masturbating Yeah, fucking and jacking off are the exact same thing. umm, I think the point is f-ing with a total stranger for money is not much of a gain over whacking off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 different strokes for different folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 different strokes for different folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I think that you can make the ethical case solely on the distinction between voluntary and coerced activity, ... I would argue that many women are coerced into prostitution and legalization will not change this fact - and not even improve the situation (it could make it worse). That's a possibility, but not one that's equally likely under all regulatory regimes. I think you'd have to consult the statistical record to make a convincing argument one way or another. I think it all comes down to: 1)Whether or not there's a moral case for prohibiting things that mentally competent adults do to themselves in private, or that they choose to do to one another in private. 2)Whether or not you think it's likely that the coercive apparatus devised to limit one particular variety of behavior that fits the description above will remain confined to the said activities. Personally, someone using heroin concerns me far less than the state's enforcement apparatus seizing their assets because they choose to consume a substance that others don't think is very good for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 if legalized and taxed, the funds raised from prostitution alone could pay for the 12 billion a month cost of the war in Iraq. Interesting idea. I'd like to see it pay for the health care of the women who work so hard to fuck the men who are so unappealing that no one will do them for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 There is a big difference between "whoring" oneself in the figurative sense and having to risk your life on the streets to survive. And for the record, I think prostitution should be legalized and regulated. This would help protect the safety and the health of all involved. Some of the biggest strides in institutionalizing the health and safety of prostitutes have made by sex-workers unions. Here's a link to one of the largest. Lots of info here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 THere you go, trying to tie me down with your rules. Don't legislate my body! you say that like tying you down is a bad thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I think that you can make the ethical case solely on the distinction between voluntary and coerced activity, ... I would argue that many women are coerced into prostitution and legalization will not change this fact - and not even improve the situation (it could make it worse). It is as if no one has noticed that when you ask a gal of any age what she wants to be when she grows up, she NEVER says, "a whore". I can't recall any saying "IT professional" or "waitress" either. Obviously your experience with females is rather limited. Limited to women who are much more accomplished, and who work in jobs that are much more interesting and important than "IT professional?" Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I've never been tied down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 (edited) It is as if no one has noticed that when you ask a gal of any age what she wants to be when she grows up, she NEVER says, "a whore". True, but at a young age, few of us knew the kinds and extent of compromises we would make along the way. We are all whores. We only rationalize the large and small sales of ourselves by our personal credos and perception of cultural acceptance. There is a big difference between "whoring" oneself in the figurative sense and having to risk your life on the streets to survive. And for the record, I think prostitution should be legalized and regulated. This would help protect the safety and the health of all involved. On the human side of it though, I think it is very sad that men and women have to resort to paying for sex or providing it for money. I think sex is one of the most beautiful gifts we are given, and to cheapen it this way must make people feel empty in their hearts. I make no distinction. Sex is simply one of many people's necessities and people will do what suits them to obtain it. The life-threatening aspect is little different than that of many activities. And, although some people (male and female) may be scarred emotionally by finding themselves in such a situation, there are many that have little trouble rationalizing the activity and consider it simply a job. My concern for those who are able to rationalize "the job" in whether they lose the facility of intimacy when they desire such. Nice rationalization, though. Whore. Edited March 10, 2008 by Dechristo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grtmtnchic Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 It is as if no one has noticed that when you ask a gal of any age what she wants to be when she grows up, she NEVER says, "a whore". LMFAO!!!!! no they say i want to marry a rich guy. Yikes! Same thing, huh?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 There is a big difference between "whoring" oneself in the figurative sense and having to risk your life on the streets to survive. And for the record, I think prostitution should be legalized and regulated. This would help protect the safety and the health of all involved. Some of the biggest strides in institutionalizing the health and safety of prostitutes have made by sex-workers unions. Here's a link to one of the largest. Lots of info here. Hopefully the Teamsters will be inspired by their example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 On the human side of it though, I think it is very sad that men and women have to resort to paying for sex or providing it for money. I think sex is one of the most beautiful gifts we are given, and to cheapen it this way must make people feel empty in their hearts. very well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Limited to women who are much more accomplished, and who work in jobs that are much more interesting and important than "IT professional?" Yes. You go boy! Get some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grtmtnchic Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I can't recall any saying "IT professional" or "waitress" either. I strongly remember as a young girl wanting to be BOTH President of the USA AND Miss America when I grew up. I guess I recognized at an early age that it was good to have beauty and power. I gave up that ambition when I realized neither career really had much of either...kinda like being a whore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 if only i could legally buy pot from the illegal laotian whore i patronize so often... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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