olyclimber Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23561606/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I like morning sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Sex has no time frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Too bad in our society this sort of thing is likely to ruin his career, his family and his reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Sex has no time frame. Really? I heard yours was right around twenty seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 like a bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 If only the American people would get there heads out of there asses and make prostitution legal, this would not be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couloir Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 If only the American people would get there heads out of there asses and make prostitution legal, this would not be a problem. If it were legal, and you went to one, should your wife get her head out of her ass and be ok with it? We're talking about deception here and ethical issues, not whether it should be legal or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 If society were more open about sex, then perhaps deception wouldn't be neccessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 If only the American people would get there heads out of there asses and make prostitution legal, this would not be a problem. If it were legal, and you went to one, should your wife get her head out of her ass and be ok with it? We're talking about deception here and ethical issues, not whether it should be legal or not. I personally would never use a prostitute. But, I would never tell you, you can’t. The point is…….if prostitution was legal…..would he be in front of the TV apologizing for cheating on his wife? He is on TV for the illegal act….not for cheating on his wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendershot Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Too bad in our society this sort of thing is likely to ruin his career, his family and his reputation. I agree, we offer no second chances here. One could argue that if he isn't honest with his wife, then he won't be honest with the people he serves, but he is a polition so it's a moot point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grtmtnchic Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Too bad in our society this sort of thing is likely to ruin his career, his family and his reputation. You're being facetious, right? Sex scandals, unless they are about men with men, don't seem to hurt men too badly. Look at Bill Clinton! I'm never surprised when I hear of a male politician involved in a sex and/or prostitution scandal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grtmtnchic Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 If society were more open about sex, then perhaps deception wouldn't be neccessary. Well.....deception isn't the same issue as repression, puritanism and an authoritarian society. Sexual perversion wouldn't occur as rampantly if our society were more open about sex and tolerant of sexual desire. The deception thing is a whole other issue...deception and lies are just plain sleazy, especially in a marriage. Expected in politics, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 You're being facetious, right? Sex scandals, unless they are about men with men, don't seem to hurt men too badly. Look at Bill Clinton! Hmm, I seem to remember he was impeached, and disbarred. I'm never surprised when I hear of a male politician involved in a sex and/or prostitution scandal. Me either. But are you trying to insinuate that only men are involved in this sort of sexual deception? That sounds pretty sexist. In my experience women are just as likely to become involved in deceptive or unethical sexual practices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Too bad in our society this sort of thing is likely to ruin his career, his family and his reputation. You're being facetious, right? Sex scandals, unless they are about men with men, don't seem to hurt men too badly. Look at Bill Clinton! I'm never surprised when I hear of a male politician involved in a sex and/or prostitution scandal. yup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grtmtnchic Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Hmm, I seem to remember he was impeached, and disbarred. And he's still one of America's FAVORITE presidents of all time. He's a celebrity! Everyone forgave him, even his wife (but surely only for political reasons of her own!). Me either. But are you trying to insinuate that only men are involved in this sort of sexual deception? That sounds pretty sexist. In my experience women are just as likely to become involved in deceptive or unethical sexual practices. I would agree women do it too, but not as often as men. Or men just get caught more!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Oh please your new savior's wife offers this advice on the differences between men and women: "What I notice about men, all men, is that their order is me, my family, God is in there somewhere, but me is first. ... And, for women, me is fourth, and that's not healthy." link BTW - This thread's title made me think it was BASEBALL related! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I would agree women do it too, but not as often as men. Or men just get caught more!!! I dunno. He is a married man, having sex with prostitutes. The prostitutes are women, having sex with married men. Different sides of the same coin, if you ask me. Of course, only the men offend you, right? I don't buy this bullshit "men are scum and women aren't" argument. Women are just as fucked up as men, sexually and otherwise. Pointing at the mud on someone else's flippers doesn't improve your own swimming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Too bad in our society this sort of thing is likely to ruin his career, his family and his reputation. The effect that this sort of thing will have on your life in this society will vary in direct proportion to the extent that you've violated codes of conduct that you volunteered to uphold. If you are a single guy who is not holding, or interested in holding public office, you can fly to Nevada and have at it and the effect on your life will be negligible, aside from whatever diseases you contract. If you are a married man holding public office, you've accepted constraints on your behavior that are vastly different than a single, private citizen has to live with in exchange for the benefits that stem from marriage and public office. Violate the oaths that you volunteered to uphold as a husband and public servant and you risk losing both. I don't think the fact that a guy who betrays his wife and office in this fashion loses either his wife and/or his office represents a fault with our society at all. This is coming from someone that thinks both society and prostitutes would be vastly better off if prostitution were legalized and subject to the same laws that govern any other business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Rob you're absolutely right. i think the statistics bear that out as well. men and women cheat in similar proportions. the point is that the public figures survive sex scandals all the time. unless its male-male. no one said that a woman involved in a sex scandal with a man couldn't survive it as well. the person in question w/this story is male Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grtmtnchic Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I would agree women do it too, but not as often as men. Or men just get caught more!!! I dunno. He is a married man, having sex with prostitutes. The prostitutes are women, having sex with married men. Different sides of the same coin, if you ask me. Of course, only the men offend you, right? I don't buy this bullshit "men are scum and women aren't" argument. Women are just as fucked up as men, sexually and otherwise. Pointing at the mud on someone else's flippers doesn't improve your own swimming. I wasn't clear or you misinterpreted what I said - I was only talking about men and women politicians involved in sex scandals - I think male politicians get caught more. I don't approve or condone of prostitution in any way. And I neer said men are scum and women aren't...did I say that? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 And I neer said men are scum and women aren't...did I say that? I don't think so. i think that's the supersecret cc.com female-to-male filter in effect. sometimes people just hear stuff that was never said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 guess I misunderstood you, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grtmtnchic Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 phew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Prostitution should be legal. No reason it isn't. I've done the legal prostitution thing, many times, and enjoyed it all but once when I was drunk. However the artical says: "Spitzer, 48, built his political legacy on rooting out corruption" He was also the former "Attorney General". "Time magazine had named him “Crusader of the Year” when he was attorney general and the tabloids proclaimed him “Eliot Ness.”" Had he been upfront about decriminalizing and-or legalizing prostitution, I'd give him a pass, but as the head law enforcement official of the state, why can he prosecute another citizen for an identical deed, then do it himself and expect any kind of a free pass from anyone? "His cases as state attorney general included a few criminal prosecutions of prostitution rings and into tourism involving prostitutes. In 2004, he was part of an investigation of an escort service in New York City that resulted in the arrest of 18 people on charges of promoting prostitution and related charges." It seems to me that he chose not to say anything when the mob hounded others, and in fact he joined the mob and helped, and now it's his turn. He needs a new job, toss him under the bus or to the wolves! BTW, you see the high price of pussy in New York? $5500 to pump some dude? Wow, I'm thinking of cross dressing and a career change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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