Bug Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 right now i'd be happy to have my abilities justify getting my rack out of the garage. 5.14 anything trad is impressive no matter the gender. raindawg, i just want to know what exactly would impress you? 5 months of rehearsal doesn't. You seem to slag on everything anyone does. Not so. There is a pattern to my discontent. Much of it involves environmentally dubious "sport-climbing" and secondly, it's stylistic practices, some of which have been incorporated into trad-climbing(e.g. hangdogging, seige-climbing - like the above 5 month exercise ). 5.14 trad crack...nice effort; siege climbing, however, doesn't impress me. Try Prozac. Report back. Quote
RuMR Posted March 10, 2008 Author Posted March 10, 2008 as usual, you don't provide a direct answer to a direct question. what would impress you? i don't give a fuck what doesn't impress you b/c that list is endless. i think pope impresses dawg in the bedroom...word on the street... Quote
rob Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Raindawg, we'll give you 5 months to practice. Report back on which 5.14+ climb you send. We'll be waiting. Quote
sexual_chocolate Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 right now i'd be happy to have my abilities justify getting my rack out of the garage. 5.14 anything trad is impressive no matter the gender. raindawg, i just want to know what exactly would impress you? 5 months of rehearsal doesn't. You seem to slag on everything anyone does. Not so. There is a pattern to my discontent. Much of it involves environmentally dubious "sport-climbing" and secondly, it's stylistic practices, some of which have been incorporated into trad-climbing(e.g. hangdogging, seige-climbing - like the above 5 month exercise ). 5.14 trad crack...nice effort; siege climbing, however, doesn't impress me. i can understand how one wouldn't be "impressed" by certain "accomplishments". there's nothing "wrong" with that. I'm not sure why this would be so offensive to some.... maybe because raindawg seems so dismissive? but is he dismissive of the act itself, or the excitement the act arouses in others? perhaps it's a little of both.... i am curious as to what "impresses" raindawg, so as to understand him a little better. maybe nothing "impresses" raindawg? i could see this as a potentially desirable mental state, if it isn't rooted in dismissive judgmental attitudes.... "expect anything, be surprised by nothing." Quote
sexual_chocolate Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Raindawg, we'll give you 5 months to practice. Report back on which 5.14+ climb you send. We'll be waiting. i could see how this would be the last thing he'd be interested in doing with his life. if it doesn't interest him, it just doesn't. rehearsal of routes is not a terribly creative act. it could be considered a compulsion even, a neurosis. Quote
rob Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 You might call it rehearsal. I might call it perseverance. Tomato. Tamato. Let's call the whole thing off. Quote
minx Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 SC-- what a dull world if i wasn't impressed by something. i'm not impressed by much but certainly much more than raindawg. i think the moments in life when you can say "wow, that's amazing" are fantastic. life would be kinda dull w/o them. Quote
Gary_Yngve Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 so most any concert, play, etc., is dull and boring because it's rehearsed? those all need to be improv, or else they're not creative? Quote
RuMR Posted March 10, 2008 Author Posted March 10, 2008 as well as watching any olympic sporting event...you know, they don't rehearse or train at all...incredibly talented, aren't they?? Quote
archenemy Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Think about it... 5 months of rehearsal. I'd be more impressed if she walked up to it and made it happen. I'm sure her first concern was impressing you An incredible accomplishment--one I could never dream of doing no matter how many years I climbed. Good for her! Quote
RuMR Posted March 10, 2008 Author Posted March 10, 2008 as well as watching any olympic sporting event...you know, they don't rehearse or train at all...incredibly talented, aren't they?? Quote
rob Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 does masturbation count as rehearsal? Cause if so, raindawg's got some 'splainin to do. Quote
archenemy Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 I rehearse A LOT. Still can't do anything to a 14c. It's absolutely amazing to me. Even when I see someone climb something "really hard" in real life, I am astounded. The full majesty of climbing hits me hard anytime I see anyone do something like this. I simply can't imagine not being blown away by people who perform at such levels. Quote
glassgowkiss Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 right now i'd be happy to have my abilities justify getting my rack out of the garage. 5.14 anything trad is impressive no matter the gender. raindawg, i just want to know what exactly would impress you? 5 months of rehearsal doesn't. You seem to slag on everything anyone does. Not so. There is a pattern to my discontent. Much of it involves environmentally dubious "sport-climbing" and secondly, it's stylistic practices, some of which have been incorporated into trad-climbing(e.g. hangdogging, seige-climbing - like the above 5 month exercise ). 5.14 trad crack...nice effort; siege climbing, however, doesn't impress me. really- the matter of fact is who cares what this wank stain has to say. most likely he is just some fat fuck, who can barely get his sorry ass up slabby 5.6. his incredible finger strength was developed through rigorous regime of typing endless number of most stupid posts on this forum. i am sure his climbing resume includes several free routes on el cap as well as several 5.14 on sight and gear protected. the truth is that this piece of shit wanker didn't even earn the the stripes to voice his opinion on this topic Quote
Bug Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Raindawg just occupied all of our time this afternoon without rehearsing what he was going to say. THAT is impressive. Quote
RuMR Posted March 10, 2008 Author Posted March 10, 2008 he's incredibly talented at acting the fool... Quote
Stella Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 (edited) Not to drift away from slaggin that raindawg dude, but how many 14c trad routes ARE there? By my count, there are 2 others in the world? But those two took a lot more time than 5 months. Edited March 10, 2008 by Stella Quote
Raindawg Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 Wow! What an impressive display of vulgarity from members of the "climbing community" toward someone who offers a different perspective than the one some of you seem to prefer. So I think "siege climbing" of this sort is ridiculous...so what! Some of your responses are so over-the-top you should be embarrassed. Quote
Off_White Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 I'm sure ya'll will understand if I move this thrill ride to Spray? So I think "siege climbing" of this sort is ridiculous...so what! Exactly! Kind of you to dress up like a windmill, folks need a little tilting exercise I guess. Quote
JayB Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 There is a pattern to my discontent. Much of it involves environmentally dubious "sport-climbing" and secondly, it's stylistic practices, some of which have been incorporated into trad-climbing(e.g. hangdogging, seige-climbing - like the above 5 month exercise ). 5.14 trad crack...nice effort; siege climbing, however, doesn't impress me. Jim McCarthy and Rich Goldstone were sieging their hardest leads in the Gunks in the early 1960's, John Stannard sieged the hell out of Foops before getting the FFA in 1967. The horse was out of the barn way before sport climbing came along. Miriam Underhill in 1957, commenting on the use of pitons to protect the leader during free ascents: "that is exactly the same climb it was before, only safer. It most definitely is not the same climb. These modern climbers are getting from their pitons an enormous help, without admitting it or, perhaps, even realizing its extent...It is not the same climb, because the piton removes or greatly mitigates the penalty for failure...For even if the modern climber never needs to use these pitons, they are there, removing from his mind a great weight of responsibility." The interplay of ethics and technology dates to an era well before the widespread use of the expansion bolt. Quote
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