billcoe Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Today I woke up with a painful zit on my ass. It's all Bush's fault! What a coincidence, thats what kept Rush out of the military too. lINK Draft Notice Claim: Talk radio host Rush Limbaugh was disqualified from the Vietnam-era draft due to a pilonidal cyst. Status: True. Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2002] There are similar stories [of avoiding service in Vietnam] about almost every other prominent right wing Republican of recent vintage. Newt Gingrich, ex-Speaker of the House, went the Cheney route [of obtaining deferments]; Kenneth Starr, Clinton's legal nemesis, had psoriasis; Jack Kemp, Dole's running mate in 1996, was unfit because of a knee injury, though he heroically continued as a National Football League quarterback for another eight years; Pat Buchanan had arthritis in his knees, though he soon became an avid jogger. The best story concerns Rush Limbaugh, the ferociously bellicose radio personality, who allegedly had either "anal cysts" or an "ingrown hair follicle on his bottom". It is not my custom to mock others' ailments, but anyone who has listened to Limbaugh's programme can imagine the dripping scorn he would bring to the revelation that a prominent Democrat had skipped a war over something like that. Also, in his case, a pain in the arse is peculiarly appropriate.1 Origins: Vitriolic "hawk vs. dove" debates are a standard feature of modern American politics whenever war is in the offing. Generally pitting Republicans against Democrats, the argument (at its lowest level) boils down to hawks criticizing doves as cowards who don't understand the military because they never served in it and are too timid about using military force, while the doves maintain that their detractors are cowardly hypocrites who avoided military service themselves while others fought the wars they advocated. From the latter side comes the term "chickenhawk," defined (by The New Hampshire Gazette, which maintains a Chickenhawk Database) as "a term often applied to public persons who tend to advocate, or are fervent supporters of those who advocate, military solutions to political problems, and who have personally declined to take advantage of a significant opportunity to serve in uniform during wartime." As men in their 50s — men of America's "Vietnam generation" — are now the most predominant figures in American politics at a national level, service in the Vietnam War is a "litmus test" issue that comes up often in political debate. And since talk radio host Rush Limbaugh is one of the most popular media proponents of the conservative political viewpoint and has been a vociferous critic of a young Bill Clinton's efforts to avoid the Vietnam-era draft, it's not surprising that the question of Limbaugh's own military status should be a common one. When Rush Limbaugh first came of draft age he held a 2-S (college deferment) Selective Service System classification as a student at Southeast Missouri State University in 1969-70, but after he dropped out of college at the end of his first year he no longer qualified for a student deferment and was subject to being reclassified as 1-A (available immediately for military service) and drafted. Selective Service System records show that Limbaugh was reclassified as 1-Y (qualified for service only in time of [declared] war or national emergency) on 24 November 1970, which effectively ended his draft eligibility and ensured that he would not be called for service. What was the basis of Limbaugh's 1-Y classification? The Selective Service System records still available indicate that the classification was not assigned on psychological or moral grounds, but because of a physical problem. And since there are no records indicating that Limbaugh was ever examined by a physician at an Armed Forces Entrance Examining Station (i.e., he never underwent a pre-induction physical), the 1-Y classification was almost certainly assigned based on a report Limbaugh had his own doctor prepare and submit to his draft board. (No implication that the report was fabricated is intended; the point is merely to note that Limbaugh's deferment was based upon an examination conducted by a private doctor, not one administered by an Armed Services physician.) What was the physical problem that disqualified Rush Limbaugh from the draft? Limbaugh biographer Paul D. Colford notes that: As for Limbaugh himself, the broadcaster stated that he was not drafted during the Vietnam War because he had been classified 4-F after a physical found that he had an "inoperable pilonidal cyst" and "a football knee from high school." He added: "I made no effort to evade it or avoid it."2 (Technically, Limbaugh's classification during his primary year of draft eligibility was 1-Y, not 4-F; he was only reclassified as 4-F after the 1-Y classification was abolished on 10 December 1971.) Which of the two stated medical reasons was the primary one behind Limbaugh's 1-Y classification is difficult to determine directly since individual medical files held by his draft board have long since been destroyed. Some, such as Limbaugh biographer Paul Colford, imply that Limbaugh's knee injury was minor or non-existent: Asked about Limbaugh's "football knee from high school," [Ryland] Meyr, the coach during his lone year of play, said he did not remember any injury.2 However, that Limbaugh did indeed have a pilonidal cyst seems indisputable, as he himself, his mother, and his brother all maintain that he did: Yet, for all his father's patriotism, and deep-rooted fear of Communism, Rusty (Rush) did not enlist to preserve those ideals. The official explanation, David Limbaugh said, is that Rush had a student deferment and, like his father, had a pilonidal cyst on his ass which qualified him for a medical deferment.3 Limbaugh's mother said in 1993 that she did not know if her son had a physical or not, but she added that he did have a pilonidal cyst like his father.2 And a pilonidal cyst was indeed a legitimately disqualifying condition: According to the Military Entrance Processing Command, a pilonidal cyst was then and is today a so-called "disqualifying condition" for induction. It's a congenital incomplete closure of the neural groove at the base of the spinal cord in which excess tissue and hair may collect and cause discomfort and discharge. The malady can be corrected by surgery, but short of that it is viewed by the military as a needless risk amid unsanitary conditions in the field.2 (Limbaugh critics have maintained that his pilonidal cyst was a "simple-to-treat condition" easily corrected through minor surgery, and that it was not a legitimately debilitating condition that precluded his serving in the armed forces but simply an excuse he seized upon to avoid military service.) That the disqualifying condition was a pilonidal cyst and not a bad knee seems to be borne out by Limbaugh's own comments on his draft status: Limbaugh's draft status arose during a 1992 appearance at the 92nd Street YM-YWHA in Manhattan. ABC newsman Jeff Greenfield, acting as moderator . . . posed to Limbaugh a written question from the audience about whether he had ever served in the military. In response, Limbaugh chose his words slowly and cautiously. He seemed to be saying that he had not known ahead of time that whatever physical condition he had in 1970 would free him from draft consideration. "I had student deferments in college and, upon taking a physical, was discovered to have a physical — uh, by virtue of what the military says, I didn't even know it existed — a physical deferment and then the lottery system came along, when they chose your lot by birthdate, and mine was high. And I did not want to go — just as Governor Clinton didn't."2 It's highly unlikely that Limbaugh only "discovered" he had a high school football knee injury several years after the fact or was unaware that a bad knee was reason for a physical deferment, so the pilonidal cyst is the far more probable explanation. (The lottery issue is largely irrelevant since Limbaugh's 1-Y classification precluded his being drafted no matter how high or low his birthdate came up in the lottery. In the event, Limbaugh's birth date was selected 152nd in the 1970 draft lottery, and since the highest lottery number ultimately called for this group was 125, he wouldn't have been drafted in 1971 no matter what his classification.) When asked about this issue nowadays, Limbaugh dismisses it as "Internet BS," as in this excerpt from a transcript of a December 2002 call to his radio program: CALLER: And Rush you never mentioned how you dodged the Vietnam draft. LIMBAUGH: I didn't. CALLER: Yes, you did. You claimed you had a boil on your butt . . . LIMBAUGH: No, you see, that’s part of popular mythology that is out there that I have not whined nor complained about, Greg. But that is just a bunch of internet BS and hyperbole. Never happened. Was not the cause, wasn’t the case. These kinds of responses, provided by Limbaugh on his show and available on the rushlimbaugh.com web site, are unconvincing and dissembling. Why not just give a straightforward answer to the question? After all, "I had a knee injury" is a simple explanation (and hardly an embarrassing one), but dismissing the issue as "Internet BS" and railing against "Internet conspiracy theories" sound too much like the response of someone who is evading the question. Instead, Limbaugh provides non-responsive "answers" when queries are posed by quickly steering the focus away from himself and claiming that "the message is that unless you've been a member of the military, you have no right to support it" (which isn't the message at all — the message is about whether it's hypocritical for those who escaped the draft to criticize others who did) but doesn't address the issue of his own draft status in the least. There is, of course, a huge difference between draft evasion (or "draft dodging") and draft avoidance: The former involves the use of unethical or illegal means (e.g., bribing a doctor to falsify a medical report, fleeing the country) to escape military service; the latter involves taking advantage of established legal means (e.g., college deferments, conscientious objector status) to avoid or delay military service. The issue discussed here is clearly not one of draft evasion, and the matter of who is justified in criticizing whom for not serving in Vietnam is a gray area to be hashed out in the public arena. The only conclusions drawn here are that Rush Limbaugh was ineligible for the draft due to a physical condition, that he had a pilonidal cyst, and that if there's an explanation for his draft status other than the cyst, he has yet to offer it." That and the fact that you both share an aversion to actually serving yet want everyone else to step up. Quote
billcoe Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Why don't we hear more about how big of a deal the dwindling exchange rate is? Seriously, I don't think anybody really thinks about it but it is killing our collective worth in the world. Maybe because it takes a delayed toll on us, we haven't had to face the real consequences yet, so nobody cares. I don't really understand the complex issues that underlie it, but it bothers me. We've lost what, about 5-10% annually for the past few years? Consider the enormity of the net worth of every asset currently in US dollars, and how much 5-10% a year is, and you quickly realize the magnitude of the problem. Better brace yourself then panther. As in: Tom & Mel went moose hunting every winter without success. Finally, they came up with a foolproof plan. They got a very authentic female moose costume and learned the mating call of a female moose. The plan was to hide in the costume, lure the bull, then come out of the costume and shoot the bull. They set themselves up on the edge of a clearing, donned their costume,moved into their tent and began to give the moose love call. Before long, their call was answered as a bull came crashing out of the forest and into the clearing. When the bull was close enough, Tom said, “Okay, lets get out and get him.” After a moment that seemed like an eternity, Mel shouted, “The zipper is stuck! What are we going to do!?” Tom says, “Well, I’m going to start nibbling grass, but you’d better brace yourself.” It looks like the moon and stars are lining up in a big way for our country and countrymen for what Dylan writes: "and it's a hard rain, is gonna fall". Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Why don't we hear more about how big of a deal the dwindling exchange rate is? Seriously, I don't think anybody really thinks about it but it is killing our collective worth in the world. Maybe because it takes a delayed toll on us, we haven't had to face the real consequences yet, so nobody cares. I don't really understand the complex issues that underlie it, but it bothers me. We've lost what, about 5-10% annually for the past few years? Consider the enormity of the net worth of every asset currently in US dollars, and how much 5-10% a year is, and you quickly realize the magnitude of the problem. Part of the reason: 1. our federal budget deficits 2. our trade deficit - e.g. China and our love for cheap shit you can blame Bush and congress for 1., but 2. can be blamed across the board - across administrations, and in America as a whole. we want cheap shit, and lots of it. Quote
olyclimber Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 whatever, as long as the monetary system is still controlled by the masons, its all good Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 whatever, as long as the monetary system is still controlled by the masons, its all good what about the zionists? in my country there is problem, and the problem is the... just ask Buckaroo and V7 Quote
JayB Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Maybe when Dru is taking a break from his FOREX trading he'll take on the argument that a trade-deficit is indistinguishable from a capital surplus... Quote
joblo7 Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 federal reserve bank, wmfund. owners/operators? Quote
kevbone Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Today I woke up with a painful zit on my ass. It's all Bush's fault! Pretty much…… Quote
STP Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 "I, for one, welcome our new reptilian overlords." Quote
gertlush Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Amero has a nice ring to it..if they got rid of pennies at the same time then sign me up! Quote
billcoe Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 It looks like the moon and stars are lining up in a big way for our country and countrymen for what Dylan writes: "and it's a hard rain, is gonna fall". 1 year ago revisited: I took the steps and braced back then, but now that this hard economic fall is upon us, I think I'm gonna like it even less that exactly 1 year ago when I predicted it. Anyone who hasn't jumped out the window, check in next year in October for the update when it's even worse than now. Quote
G-spotter Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Every disaster is an opportunity for a resourceful man. Quote
billcoe Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 Every disaster is an opportunity for a resourceful man. Perhaps, yet still a disaster. Quote
G-spotter Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 "The act of destruction is also a creative act" - Bakunin Quote
billcoe Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 "The Great Depression was not the country’s first depression, though it proved to be the longest. The common thread woven through the several earlier debacles was disastrous manipulation of the money supply by government. For various reasons, government policies were adopted that ballooned the quantity of money and credit. A boom resulted, followed later by a painful day of reckoning. None of America’s depressions prior to 1929, however, lasted more than four years and most of them were over in two. The Great Depression lasted for a dozen years because the government compounded its monetary errors with a series of harmful interventions. Most monetary economists, particularly those of the “Austrian school,” have observed the close relationship between money supply and economic activity. When government inflates the money and credit supply, interest rates at first fall. Businesses invest this “easy money” in new production projects and a boom takes place in capital goods. As the boom matures, business costs rise, interest rates readjust upward, and profits are squeezed. The easy-money effects thus wear off and the monetary authorities, fearing price inflation, slow the growth of or even contract the money supply. In either case, the manipulation is enough to knock out the shaky supports from underneath the economic house of cards. One of the most thorough and meticulously documented accounts of the Fed’s inflationary actions prior to 1929 is America’s Great Depression by the late Murray Rothbard. Using a broad measure that includes currency, demand and time deposits, and other ingredients, Rothbard estimated that the Federal Reserve expanded the money supply by more than 60 percent from mid-1921 to mid-1929.[2] The flood of easy money drove interest rates down, pushed the stock market to dizzy heights, and gave birth to the “Roaring Twenties.”" With the lessons learned last time, this will not be so bad, but the business cycle, step 1 of the 4 seen last time, is here. Link Quote
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