COL._Von_Spanker Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: Plastic! Hmmmmm I'm not sure what to think. The colors sure are nice though. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 I'm skeptical of the strengths and durability. [ 11-07-2002, 11:21 AM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ] Quote
freeclimb9 Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 IMO, the overwhelming benefit of aluminum alloys for use as material for hexes, or stoppers, (besides weight and strength) is its propensity to gall. The galling helps it hold in placements. Plastic doesn't do that. Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 So, it seems like they must have taken this into account in their choice/design of polymers, but wouldn't the shit just shear right out of the placement? Sketch-o concept. The Doctor certainly wouldn't be jumping at the chance to take whips on plastic bolts, anyway. Quote
freeclimb9 Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 Ahh, fuck it. They're only Australians. Quote
thelawgoddess Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 can i get a set of those for my sandbox? Quote
snoboy Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: So, it seems like they must have taken this into account in their choice/design of polymers, but wouldn't the shit just shear right out of the placement? Sketch-o concept. The Doctor certainly wouldn't be jumping at the chance to take whips on plastic bolts, anyway. Plastic bolts Well they might be good for alpine stuff eh? Light enough. Do they have a plastic drill too? Maybe we should give T.Shoes some for his project at Nesakawatch. Seriously though - I would imagine they tested these things. ( I hope!) I remember seeing something about them a few years back. If the hex has a good placement I bet it would be OK. I think the nuts would give me the though. Quote
troubleski Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 Actually they might very well be as strong or stronger as Alum. Nuts.... I have been seeing a lot of plastic popping up in new sailboat hardware mostly because it is stronger and lighter than the Aluminum it is replacing... We can let the Aussies fall on them for awhile and let us know what they think... A Quote
chucK Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 Yeah those f**kers are probably lying about the strength ratings . Newfangled plastic hexes!! Throw 'em in the junk heap with the wiregate 'biners, Friends, and crampons! Quote
Dru Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 They tried plastic nuts 15 years ago. No market demand. Quote
mattp Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by chucK: Yeah those f**kers are probably lying about the strength ratings . Newfangled plastic hexes!! Throw 'em in the junk heap with the wiregate 'biners, Friends, and crampons! Yeah. And kernmantal ropes really suck too, eh ChucK? We should all be climbing on hemp. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted November 7, 2002 Author Posted November 7, 2002 Hey Mattp we've already had that discussion! See MoS. Quote
chucK Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 Yeah dynamic freakin' ropes ! And using slings between 'biners, cheating!!! Don't even get me started about dogbone draws....grrr! Quote
Figger_Eight Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 I wonder if they're CE certified...? I would miss the clanking of metal rack when I walk around Quote
eric8 Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 Metal Hexes sound cool I doubt there lying about strength, however, i to would question durability of the peices. Quote
snoboy Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 quote: Originally posted by eric8: Metal Hexes sound cool I doubt there lying about strength, however, i to would question durability of the peices. Me too. I mean my metal ones are almost worn out! Quote
haireball Posted November 9, 2002 Posted November 9, 2002 Back in the 70's, Forrest distributed an array of "plastic" wedges. They had an unpleasant affinity for becoming "fixed" placements under relatively light (say, as on an aid climb) loadings. Apart from their tendency to be irretrievable, they worked exceptionally well in soft rock (Zion). -Curt Quote
David_Parker Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 At least they won't stick to your tongue when it's really cold out! Quote
chelle Posted November 21, 2002 Posted November 21, 2002 And they're cheap too. Only US$66 for a full set of each. Quote
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