ashw_justin Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 MOVE TO SEATTLE EVERYTHING IS PERFECT HERE AND THE HOMES ARE CHEAP AND THERE ARE TONS OF JOBS AND THERE IS NO TRAFFIC AND YOU WILL BECOME MORE FIT AND SMARTER AND TERRORISTS DONT ATTACK HERE AND CALIFORNIA IS TOO EXPENSIVE AND CROWDED FOR YOU ACT NOW DIE AND GO TO HEAVEN FOR ONLY $400,000 BEFORE THE BOOM IS OVER AND WE STOP BUILDING ALL OF THESE HOUSES!!!!! Quote
archenemy Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 MOVE TO SEATTLE EVERYTHING IS PERFECT HERE AND THE HOMES ARE CHEAP AND THERE ARE TONS OF JOBS AND THERE IS NO TRAFFIC AND YOU WILL BECOME MORE FIT AND SMARTER AND TERRORISTS DONT ATTACK HERE AND CALIFORNIA IS TOO EXPENSIVE AND CROWDED FOR YOU ACT NOW DIE AND GO TO HEAVEN FOR ONLY $400,000 BEFORE THE BOOM IS OVER AND WE STOP BUILDING ALL OF THESE HOUSES!!!!! great post! Quote
underworld Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 quadrant homes doesn't pave seattle under.... people that buy quadrant homes pave seattle under...  quadrant homes makes money on said people   Quote
Seahawks Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Paving the Northwest under and proud of it! Â Wherehouser. When have they ever cared? Quote
catbirdseat Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Quandrant Homes. Why have quality when you can have quantity? Quote
ericb Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Quandrant Homes. Why have quality when you can have quantity? Â "Quadrant Homes - You could have bought a Burnstead, but then you couldn't afford to commute to work in your SUV from BFE, now could you, yuppie scum." Quote
JayB Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Sounds like someone needs an urban loft with polished concrete floors, exposed steel beams, and lots of glass to glower and angst about the aesthetic predilections of the middle class in. Â [Yelling through clenched teeth, pacing back and forth before expansive view of the Seattle Nightscape out the oversized windows, gesturing dramatically with half-full wine-glass after throwing the unsolicited catalog full of semi-custom floor plans with one, two, or....three car garage options into the brushed-matte stainless steel recycling bin in disgust] Â "HAVE THESE PEOPLE NEVER HEARD OF LE-MOTHERFUCKING-CORBUSIER?" Â Â Quote
spicoli11 Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 I like my houses new and big to go with my escalade bitches!!!!!!!! Quote
ericb Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Sounds like someone needs an urban loft with polished concrete floors, exposed steel beams, and lots of glass to glower and angst about the aesthetic predilections of the middle class in. [Yelling through clenched teeth, pacing back and forth before expansive view of the Seattle Nightscape out the oversized windows, gesturing dramatically with half-full wine-glass after throwing the unsolicited catalog full of semi-custom floor plans with one, two, or....three car garage options into the brushed-matte stainless steel recycling bin in disgust]  "HAVE THESE PEOPLE NEVER HEARD OF LE-MOTHERFUCKING-CORBUSIER?"   Standing on concrete floors hurts my back....that's why I moved to Issaquah Quote
fig8 Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007  Standing on concrete floors hurts my back....that's why I moved to Issaquah  A sore back could also be a sign that your man-boobs are too big.   Quote
ashw_justin Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 (edited) quadrant homes doesn't pave seattle under.... people that buy quadrant homes pave seattle under...No, the buyers do not in fact do any paving. They don't even pay for the paving. The building company paves, and then recoups its money by selling what it paved. quadrant homes makes money on said people True.  However:  Hmm... let's see. "You can afford a new home." That's a pretty irresponsible blanket statement to make.  Sounds like quadrant homes makes money by manipulating said people.  Of course, buyer beware is business as usual and that's not about to change. We ought to end up a lot smarter as a people, if we spend most of our time trying to deceive each other.  edit: Notice also the prominent slot machine motif Edited July 19, 2007 by ashw_justin Quote
archenemy Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Being in the market for a home right now (as a matter of fact I'm going "shopping" after work today), I can certainly say that it is shocking how expensive everything is. I now sympathize with any first time buyers--I don't know how they could possibly get into the market (especially w/o using any crazy stupid loan schemes) Quote
rob Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 I was lucky, I only had to give up half of my liver. Quote
JayB Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Is Quadrant selling a limited edition Bear Stearns model in the semi-custom portfolio? Â Quote
murraysovereign Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 ...it is shocking how expensive everything is. ...I don't know how they could possibly get into the market (especially w/o using any crazy stupid loan schemes) Â But all those crazy stupid loan schemes are a significant contributing factor to those shockingly high house prices. Don't worry, though, all those stupid crazy loan schemes are also a significant contributing factor in the impending shocking reduction in house prices. If I was you, I'd wait before buying anything. Quote
underworld Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 No, the buyers do not in fact do any paving. They don't even pay for the paving. The building company paves, and then recoups its money by selling what it paved. Â so the selling of the paving doesn't pay for the paving?? huh?? Â Â they wouldn't pave unless there was a history of people buying the paving. Â Quote
ashw_justin Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 If by history you mean prediction, then sure, the company predicted that it could pave and sell, because people have been buying homes. But market history is only one factor that goes into sales predictions. Â Are you suggesting that all of the money this company spent on the current project arose from profits from previous development projects? Or are you guessing? What if I guessed that instead, they just borrowed the money at a low interest rate, or garnered the funds from investors? The selling of the paving pays for the company/investors to reap profits. And do more paving... if they want to. But again: the homebuyer does not pave. Quote
rbw1966 Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007  Standing on concrete floors hurts my back....that's why I moved to Issaquah  A sore back could also be a sign that your man-boobs are too big.   Quote
underworld Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 If by history you mean prediction, then sure, the company predicted that it could pave and sell, because people have been buying homes. But market history is only one factor that goes into sales predictions. Are you suggesting that all of the money this company spent on the current project arose from profits from previous development projects? Or are you guessing? What if I guessed that instead, they just borrowed the money at a low interest rate, or garnered the funds from investors? The selling of the paving pays for the investors to reap profits. And do more paving... if they want to. But again: the homebuyer does not pave.   right...i agree..it is predictions and history. also, i'd agree that it is borrowed money.  again, you nailed it on the "...and do more paving..." cuz people paid them. if people stop paying, they stop paving.  right, the homebuyer is not out there with the tools paving - duh. Quote
ashw_justin Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 again, you nailed it on the "...and do more paving..." cuz people paid them. if people stop paying, they stop paving. No... still no. You see, this company did all of the development of this project before any of its consumers dropped a dime. Sure, it occurred in a market context that makes it look as if it is circular... but it isn't. Capital->development->payoff is the pattern, but there is absolutely nothing that says the pattern must be a closed loop. Â right, the homebuyer is not out there with the tools paving - duh. Yes! The capitalist crux! The consumer is strictly a money-spending unit. The means of production must never fall into their hands! Profits would vanish! Quote
JayB Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 What happens to companies that borrow money to produce something that consumers stop buying, or more likely, don't buy enough of at a price that's sufficient to pay off the loan and other expenses associated with producing/selling whatever they're in the business of producing/selling? Â Â Quote
underworld Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 again, you nailed it on the "...and do more paving..." cuz people paid them. if people stop paying, they stop paving. No... still no. You see, this company did all of the development of this project before any of its consumers dropped a dime. Sure, it occurred in a market context that makes it look as if it is circular... but it isn't. Capital->development->payoff is the pattern, but there is absolutely nothing that says the pattern must be a closed loop. Â Â you've turned both the consumer and the developer into total mindless idiots. Â they are both rational... Quote
ashw_justin Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 What happens to companies that borrow money to produce something that consumers stop buying, or more likely, don't buy enough of at a price that's sufficient to pay off the loan and other expenses associated with producing/selling whatever they're in the business of producing/selling? Such companies pay dearly for misguided risk by tanking spectacularly and dying in a poof of shredded documents. The fittest investors jump ship and elude bankruptcy at the expense of the rest. Quote
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