Dechristo Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I started tele-skiing on Bona's and was stoked when Rossignol came out with the first metal edge skinny skis: the Randonee. For me, there's not too things that beat tele-ing waist-deep pow in the BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I started telying on Track No Glides and was similarly stoaked to upgrade to a pair of Rossy Randonees, but one of the little bitches snapped in half on me on top of Stevens. Asolo Extremes were bling, back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 It definitely feels cooler to do nice turns, but telemarking just seems contrived to me these days - like climbing a route w/ one hand behind your back... Comments? I think a better analogy might be climbing a route w/ one hand down your pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderfour Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I wonder why anyone would learn to tele? It definitely feels cooler to do nice turns, but telemarking just seems contrived to me these days - like climbing a route w/ one hand behind your back... Comments? "Why do you tele?" "Because I can." (well, not me. I'm about the rando gear) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I've been tele skiing for ~6yrs now. At first it sucked and I was always bruised. I kept at it, though, sure that once I got the hang it'd be awesome. When I got better but it still wasn't awesome I bought more gear, convinced that was my problem. That helped a bit, but I still get tired a lot faster than I did on skis or a snowboard and I still crash lots more whenever the snow is suboptimal (which thankfully never happens in the NW). Since AT boots and dynafit bindings weigh about the same as modern tele gear but have the advantage of RELEASING, have ready-made ski crampons, and take much less energy and skill to use, I wonder why anyone would learn to tele? It definitely feels cooler to do nice turns, but telemarking just seems contrived to me these days - like climbing a route w/ one hand behind your back... Comments? FYI; cable bindings, such as Rivas, are flexible enough not to require a release mechanism. With proper adjustment, you'll blow out of the binding if it all goes wrong. Others, such as Voiles, have release options. I use the same ski crampons as AT folks. As for the rest; well, that's all personal preference, fitness, and skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underworld Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I wonder why anyone would learn to tele? It definitely feels cooler to do nice turns, but telemarking just seems contrived to me these days - like climbing a route w/ one hand behind your back... Comments? skiing is contrived. you end up where you started. much like all fitness or entertainment. for some, me included - the atraction is the extra challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Asolo Extremes were bling, back then. I got a pair of those...after frostbiting the fuck out of my feet when my previous boots disintegrated during a 28-mile ski out from a climb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 The vikings used tely gear. That's reason enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 fix your heels and fix your problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 telemark = Swedish for "hay guise wate 4 me lolz" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 telemark: French for "snob" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Telemark is a place in Norway, mon ami. It translates to "I get yelps and whoops from the chairlifts and, sadly, you don't." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindy666 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 ...............droap youre nee, skwat to pppeeeeee;;;;;;;;;;;; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greta Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Telemark is a place in Norway, mon ami. It translates to "I get yelps and whoops from the chairlifts and, sadly, you don't." Werd, tvash Started on the stylie Kazama Cornices myself. Its been a perpetual evolution ever since. Keeping your shit together when your legs start to feel like noodles is a welcome challenge every time I go out. Ive been teleing for about 10yrs, but I still feel like I have a lot to learn and work on. I tried knuckle dragging several seasons ago and about half way through the winter, found my self riding and hucking with my friends who are life long boarders. Boring And whats with clogging up the narrow slot off the lift and hiding of the off-side of bumps? Get the fuck out of the way. I dont move that fast, but I wont hesitate to inadvertantly smack your dumb ass with a pole on the way by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billygoat Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Maroon Rossi Randonees!!! I was just up at Big white and busted those suckers out for some evening touring and a long run down a blue. They are still awesome skis! Especially with hot neon pink and green Rottefella three pins! They are a little easier to turn with T-3s than the Snowfield IIs I used back in the day. Give me a call Arch if you want to go up. I have a sure fire teaching technique. BTW you should be wearing kneepads. Got my number still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 For all you telebators out there; I"ve got a pair of REI rental long boards, real viking ships, from the 1930s in pristine condition, adjusted perfectly for my tely boots. Never skiied them. DOn't we have some kind of spring ski fest thing on this site coming up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knottygirl Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Suck it up, like they say "If it was easy, it'd be called "snowboarding"". i guess that's why we (boarders) are always the last ones on the mountain at the end of the day i actually ride primarily with tele skiers That's because snowboarders spend half the day sitting on the slopes just over a blind hump, or immediately off the lift. You spent too much time resting and not enough time "riding" ummm not all of us sit on our asses! in fact i don't even sit to strap in! and am irritated by most snowboarders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Telemark is a place in Norway, mon ami. It translates to "I get yelps and whoops from the chairlifts and, sadly, you don't." Werd, tvash Started on the stylie Kazama Cornices myself. Its been a perpetual evolution ever since. Keeping your shit together when your legs start to feel like noodles is a welcome challenge every time I go out. Ive been teleing for about 10yrs, but I still feel like I have a lot to learn and work on. I tried knuckle dragging several seasons ago and about half way through the winter, found my self riding and hucking with my friends who are life long boarders. Boring And whats with clogging up the narrow slot off the lift and hiding of the off-side of bumps? Get the fuck out of the way. I dont move that fast, but I wont hesitate to inadvertantly smack your dumb ass with a pole on the way by. I had Kazamas myself at one point, myself. Can't remember the model. Pretty good ski, as I recall. Now that we're dragging out the model Ts of skis: Fischer Europa 99s, baby! Karhus...follow that fucking bear, bitch. Heel lifts made from 2" sections of dowel and shock cord. I wan - it. I wan - it. Postal Service woolies, Pendletons and dachsteins. Baaaaaaa! BUt my absolute keeewwwwlist piece of gear, stolen from high school metal shop: green safety glasses. Supahfly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I learned to tele on a pair of Europa 99's my brother-in-law gave me that had some lightweight 3 pins on them. When I finally upgraded and moved my Riva cable bindings to a pair of Toute Neige, I counted 34 holes in the 99's. Apparently my bro-in-law got them 2nd (or 3rd) hand as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Trout Negligees...had those suckers too. Jesus, how many pairs of skis have I gone through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 I've been tele skiing for ~6yrs now. At first it sucked and I was always bruised. I kept at it, though, sure that once I got the hang it'd be awesome. When I got better but it still wasn't awesome I bought more gear, convinced that was my problem. That helped a bit, but I still get tired a lot faster than I did on skis or a snowboard and I still crash lots more whenever the snow is suboptimal (which thankfully never happens in the NW). Since AT boots and dynafit bindings weigh about the same as modern tele gear but have the advantage of RELEASING, have ready-made ski crampons, and take much less energy and skill to use, I wonder why anyone would learn to tele? It definitely feels cooler to do nice turns, but telemarking just seems contrived to me these days - like climbing a route w/ one hand behind your back... Comments? FYI; cable bindings, such as Rivas, are flexible enough not to require a release mechanism. With proper adjustment, you'll blow out of the binding if it all goes wrong. Others, such as Voiles, have release options. I use the same ski crampons as AT folks. As for the rest; well, that's all personal preference, fitness, and skill. My bindings do release, thankfully. I was a little concerned about it, but I think I got over that fear when I started snowboarding (the fear of having equipment stuck to me while going ass over teakettle down the hill). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccallboater Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 My first backcountry setup: 1958 steel Hart standards (210cm), Marker explodomat toe pieces with front throw cable, long thongs, plus Raichle Molitair double boots with the midsole removed so they would flex a little at the arch. Plus a first edition copy of Steve Barnett's "Downhill Nordic" looking more tattered than my Muir VW repair manual. I've been trying to go with lighter gear ever since. I love the tele turn, but AT is nicer on my knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 OK, I just checked my antique skis. They're 'Seattle Super Hickories', made in Norway, apparently rented or purchased from the U Book Store. 198 cm. Metal edges (screwed in) on the sides, phenolic edges on the shovel. The bindings are Dovre KX cables with lock down hooks on the sides, with a spring loaded release cable (similar to the older Rivas) and a gooseneck cable tension adjustment in front. Overall, a pretty sophisticated setup for the time, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 My first backcountry setup: 1958 steel Hart standards (210cm), Marker explodomat toe pieces with front throw cable,... I've been trying to go with lighter gear ever since. Not hard to go with lighter gear after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joblo7 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 god bless your skis maaaaaan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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